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Old 08-08-2008, 11:15 AM   #1
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I don't know if anyone has posted this already or not, but that really sucks. I would have thought that he'd know all about making weight by now. He must have really hit his limit. They don't have an alternate or something for his weightclass?
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:39 AM   #2
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at least one of your country men tried to make weight, can't be said for frankie [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:42 AM   #3
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I am with Kerry Kayes on this one - the ABA have shown themselves to be exactly as they sell themselves - AMATEUR

Surely a guy ought to be entitled to have his nutritionist with him - especially as it was public knowledge that he was strugging to make 132 and had been competing at 139 for quite a while.

Bizarre.

In any case, 3lbs is hardly a great deal of weight - 40 mins on a treadmill followed by a sauna session would shed that pretty easily. I suppose it is the hydration between fights that would be an issue.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:46 AM   #4
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I am with Kerry Kayes on this one - the ABA have shown themselves to be exactly as they sell themselves - AMATEUR

Surely a guy ought to be entitled to have his nutritionist with him - especially as it was public knowledge that he was strugging to make 132 and had been competing at 139 for quite a while.

Bizarre.

In any case, 3lbs is hardly a great deal of weight - 40 mins on a treadmill followed by a sauna session would shed that pretty easily. I suppose it is the hydration between fights that would be an issue.
tru, oh well its there rules
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:11 PM   #5
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In any case, 3lbs is hardly a great deal of weight - 40 mins on a treadmill followed by a sauna session would shed that pretty easily. I suppose it is the hydration between fights that would be an issue.
What if there was no more water weight to lose ?, then 3lbs goes from an easy amount to lose to impossible.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:11 PM   #6
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Perhaps not allowing guys to bring along their own trainers and nutritionists is rather odd.

The most ridiculous thing about amateur boxing is four two minute rounds - and the fact that you could hit an opponent with 10 girly slaps and get 10 points, or land a big right hand almost KO'ing your opponent and only get one!
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:12 PM   #7
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What if there was no more water weight to lose ?, then 3lbs goes from an easy amount to lose to impossible.
There is always colonic irrigation
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:15 PM   #8
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People will do anything to fulfill their dreams. They probably knew deep down they wasn't going to make weight but convinced themselves it would be ok.
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I am with Kerry Kayes on this one - the ABA have shown themselves to be exactly as they sell themselves - AMATEUR

Surely a guy ought to be entitled to have his nutritionist with him - especially as it was public knowledge that he was strugging to make 132 and had been competing at 139 for quite a while.

Bizarre.

In any case, 3lbs is hardly a great deal of weight - 40 mins on a treadmill followed by a sauna session would shed that pretty easily. I suppose it is the hydration between fights that would be an issue.
Drinking a gallon of water more than he usually does for a few days a few days prior to the weighin, whenhe stops his body will try to supercompensate so it holds less water than it does usually, combined with some sauna-ing should shed 3lb even for a 135lb dude.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:19 PM   #10
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Perhaps not allowing guys to bring along their own trainers and nutritionists is rather odd.

The most ridiculous thing about amateur boxing is four two minute rounds - and the fact that you could hit an opponent with 10 girly slaps and get 10 points, or land a big right hand almost KO'ing your opponent and only get one!
Spot on , this is the real problem with Olympic Boxing ( its part of the reason Harrison couldn't make the switch ) they should go back to the old system , I know RJJ got jobbed but jesus this is barely boxing now.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:25 PM   #11
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I haven't actually seen the RJJ final, but have seen the punch stats so can draw my own conclusions.

I can only assume there was a bit of hometown judging or whatever going on??

What was the old system?

I understand why a 10 point must system wouldn't quite work, but the way the scoring is carried out, to me it usually removes the whole skill element - of inside fighting, body shots, working behind the jab or boxing off the back foot - it is basically jab and run away like a bitch
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Drinking a gallon of water more than he usually does for a few days a few days prior to the weighin, whenhe stops his body will try to supercompensate so it holds less water than it does usually, combined with some sauna-ing should shed 3lb even for a 135lb dude.
You realize that isn't some super top secret trick, and that he was already doing it right?
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I haven't actually seen the RJJ final, but have seen the punch stats so can draw my own conclusions.

I can only assume there was a bit of hometown judging or whatever going on??

What was the old system?

I understand why a 10 point must system wouldn't quite work, but the way the scoring is carried out, to me it usually removes the whole skill element - of inside fighting, body shots, working behind the jab or boxing off the back foot - it is basically jab and run away like a bitch
BORKED

While you do make some valid points about the amateur system, generally jabs aren't really scored and it's the straight punches which follow them that are. A lot of it is fighters 'running' then leaping in with a combination then out again.
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Old 08-08-2008, 02:15 PM   #14
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I think Ricky Hatton would have liked those judges against Floyd Mayweather had the fight gone 12 rounds

Other than a schooling I dunno what to say
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