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Old 07-26-2007, 07:53 AM   #1
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i have to say without a doubt in my mind.

LES DARCY.
i know im an Aussie but there are unbelievable stats and stories on this guy.

like one stat the only man to KO George Chip. Chip had just beaten Harry Greb then he came to Australia to take on the great Les Darcy he was Knocked Out cold in the 9th round. and Chip in his whole career was only stopped once.

then there was Eddie McGoorty who had never been stopped inside a boxing ring until he met Darcy and on both occasions he was KO'd.
and McGoorty had beaten guys like Battling Levinsky and George Chip.

so i can honestly say that because he died so young that he may have been the best boxer that the USA never really got to see.

although he beat some of the best Middleweights getting around at the time in Jimmy Clabby,Eddie McGoorty and George Chip.
he never got to face and i say beat the likes of Harry Greb,Mike Gibbons,Battling Levinsky,Mike McTigue,Al McCoy and Gene Tunney.

but i would have to say he would have been able to beat a fair few of those men mentioned. why because in Australia at the time Darcy was fighting 20 round match's and Greb and other USA fighters were only fighting 10 round fights.

anyway that why i think he is the most underated Middleweight all time.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:18 AM   #2
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:16 AM   #3
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Michael Nunn - Some people say he's overrated, I say he's underrated.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:36 PM   #4
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Michael Nunn - Some people say he's overrated, I say he's underrated.
Nunn's a good call SS. a very underated fighter that didnt get alot of exposure.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:41 PM   #5
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Erick Crumble.

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Old 07-26-2007, 01:46 PM   #6
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i wonder if he ever deserved a title shot.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:47 PM   #7
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What about this guy Freeddie Steele. What do we know about him?
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Seconded.

... And thirded. Top ten for ability I think. Excluding the very elite four or five middleweights, Valdez might be beaten by the more slick middleweights like Giardello or Griffith, but would most likely eat the others for breakfast. I think he'd beat Fullmer, LaMotta, Zale and even Tiger.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:44 PM   #11
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i have to say without a doubt in my mind.

LES DARCY.
BoppaZoo back with his Barry Humphey's alter ego.... I know

Well look I've learnt a little bit more about, and gave him a bit more credit post your last visit...

Top 10 fighters 1911 to 1920

10 Jim Driscoll
9 Harry Wills
8 Jack Johnson
7 Benny Leonard
6 Freddie Welsh
5 Jack Britton
4 Ted Lewis
3 Georges Carpentier
2 Johnny Kilbane
1 Jimmy Wilde

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Kid Williams, Pete Herman, Abe Attell, Ad Wolgast, Dixie Kid, Mike Gibbons, Les Darcy, Mike O’Dowd, Sammy Langford, Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Sam McVey, Joe Jeanette and Jack Dempsey


But anyway the most underrated Middleweight ever is probably Kid McCoy, when he was real.
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You can be rellied upon my friend.

I agree.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:47 AM   #13
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What about this guy Freeddie Steele. What do we know about him?

Took the wind right out of my sails, brother.

Definitely underrated. The guy lost 5 fights, three of them in the last five fights of his career. The war years definitely hurt his legacy. Perhaps also for Zale, whom people only appreciated in the waning days of his skills.

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Hey Boppa,

what about Dave Sands?
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Curtis Parker.
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