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Old 07-17-2007, 01:08 AM   #1
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Default George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

The Foreman that fought Holyfield against the Bowe that fought Holyfield.....How do you see it?

I think this would be an awfully painful fight for George. He'd either get stopped or beaten badly en route to a lopsided decision loss!
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:17 AM   #2
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Old Foreman vs Prime Bowe.

Foreman is one of my favourite fighters but I dont see him hanging in there with a prime Bowe. Bowe was close in size to Foreman and could bang it out as well. I'd say a late rounds TKO for Bowe after Foreman has faded a bit.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:43 AM   #3
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I think George would jab his way to a decision win in this one. Bowe was really a big infighter. Foreman wouldn't have allowed him inside. George repeatedly shoved steroid inflated Tommy Morrison to the outside like a rag doll. George's jab connected more often than not, at this stage of his career, and Bowe was a huge target.

Not only would Foreman have been stronger physically, but he would have been the shorter man in this one, with the lower center of gravity. Against Cooney, he showed he could be perfectly comfortable filling this unusual role. His cross armed defense would have afforded him more protection than usual. Bowe would be in an unfamiliar position of being forced to give ground.

Most of the excitement in this one would have been over the potential for an abrupt ending at any time, but at the end, it would have been a fairly pedantic points win for the lumbering oldster, moving incessantly forward behind his reincarnated jab.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:55 PM   #4
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I think George would jab his way to a decision win in this one. Bowe was really a big infighter. Foreman wouldn't have allowed him inside. George repeatedly shoved steroid inflated Tommy Morrison to the outside like a rag doll. George's jab connected more often than not, at this stage of his career, and Bowe was a huge target.

Not only would Foreman have been stronger physically, but he would have been the shorter man in this one, with the lower center of gravity. Against Cooney, he showed he could be perfectly comfortable filling this unusual role. His cross armed defense would have afforded him more protection than usual. Bowe would be in an unfamiliar position of being forced to give ground.

Most of the excitement in this one would have been over the potential for an abrupt ending at any time, but at the end, it would have been a fairly pedantic points win for the lumbering oldster, moving incessantly forward behind his reincarnated jab.
I just don't see George being competitive in this one. George had a good jab, but Bowe used his better. Bowe was alot quicker, more mobile, and would have a height and reach advantage. Foreman blowing out Cooney is one thing, but being in the ringwith a big, strong, active and well-schooled fighter is an entirely different matter. Cooney was inactive and fragile; Bowe was not. Bowe probably had the punching power edge on Foreman as well.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:10 PM   #5
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I think George would jab his way to a decision win in this one. Bowe was really a big infighter. Foreman wouldn't have allowed him inside. George repeatedly shoved steroid inflated Tommy Morrison to the outside like a rag doll. George's jab connected more often than not, at this stage of his career, and Bowe was a huge target.

Not only would Foreman have been stronger physically, but he would have been the shorter man in this one, with the lower center of gravity. Against Cooney, he showed he could be perfectly comfortable filling this unusual role. His cross armed defense would have afforded him more protection than usual. Bowe would be in an unfamiliar position of being forced to give ground.

Most of the excitement in this one would have been over the potential for an abrupt ending at any time, but at the end, it would have been a fairly pedantic points win for the lumbering oldster, moving incessantly forward behind his reincarnated jab.
george JAB HIS WAY to a decision?? bowe had a much faster, simply better jab.

he would have jabbed the crap out of slow footed george. by mid rounds, the doctor stops it.

bowe tko 6
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:24 PM   #6
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I could buy Bowe getting the better of George, but only if Big Daddy outmaneuvers him. He shouldn't be attempting to back Foreman up, and he shouldn't attempt to take the fight inside, where George could use his physical strength. Tommy Morrison provided the blueprint for beating Foreman at that stage of George's career.

Above all, Bowe should box for the decision win. If he hurts Foreman without taking him out, George would battle back with a dangerous sense of urgency. Lull him into sleepwalking, and it could be an easy points win. Go for the kill, and Bowe's on his own.
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I could buy Bowe getting the better of George, but only if Big Daddy outmaneuvers him. He shouldn't be attempting to back Foreman up, and he shouldn't attempt to take the fight inside, where George could use his physical strength. Tommy Morrison provided the blueprint for beating Foreman at that stage of George's career.

Above all, Bowe should box for the decision win. If he hurts Foreman without taking him out, George would battle back with a dangerous sense of urgency. Lull him into sleepwalking, and it could be an easy points win. Go for the kill, and Bowe's on his own.
George's endurance was dismal at his stage of his career even though he paced himself better. Bowe was an elite fighter who can fight well on the outside as well as the inside. Morrison fought him that way because he was cautious of George's power and used a stick and more gameplan (being a chinny fighter probably motivated it) and apparently because they were friends.

Micheal Moorer was right in front of him for 9 rounds and was pretty successful I believe that Bowe was more durable and his ability to fight on the inside as well as competant outside ability I have no reason to see how 90s Foreman can beat him.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:27 PM   #8
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bowe by late round stoppage with an exhausted foreman out on his feet......and im a huge foreman fan, but bowe at this point just had too much of everything for george..
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As regards my quixotic isolation in picking Big George, I am mindful of the motto on the bottle of fine chardonnay wine I got for my Dad this past Father's Day labeled OLD FART:

Be bold-go for the Old! (Remember, age and treachery will always defeat youth and skill!)
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Remember, age and treachery will always defeat youth and skill!
Only when it comes to strategizing, not necessarily when it comes to executing.
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Foreman's lack of speed and mobility against most opponents would not be a factor against Bowe as he would stand right in front of Foreman for long periods. Foreman also hit hard enough to hurt Bowe and I don't think this would have been as easy a win for Bowe as many would expect. Bowe could very well find himself in a very tough fight as his defence is very poor and it is inevitable with his style that he'd get hit.

Having said that, the Bowe who beat Holyfield would win on points by simply outworking Foreman over the distance in a suprisingly competitive match up.

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Old 07-17-2007, 05:33 PM   #12
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Bowe had one big weakness he wasn't as tough as his size suggested Lewis beat the crap out of him at the Olympics and Golota destroyed Bowe with some good old fashioned thuggery.

In 92 Bowe had beaten Holyfield but nobody else who really hit him back hard. The pattern of this fight would be set by Bowe's reaction to the first of Foreman's bombs that landed. If Foreman hurts him then Bowe would run making it a very different fight that George would find hard to win as Bowe endeavoured to keep him at long range.

If Bowe absorbs Foreman's power early and moves inside then George would have a decent chance of breaking Bowe up.
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:37 PM   #13
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Bowe maybe and that is only because he has the chin to take foremans punches.

People seem to have forgotten that Bowe had no defense and was outjabbed by ANYONE who threw a jab at him.

In an era with a large number of great punchers Bowe avoided all of them.

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Old 07-25-2007, 05:57 PM   #14
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I think George would jab his way to a decision win in this one. Bowe was really a big infighter. Foreman wouldn't have allowed him inside. George repeatedly shoved steroid inflated Tommy Morrison to the outside like a rag doll. George's jab connected more often than not, at this stage of his career, and Bowe was a huge target.

Not only would Foreman have been stronger physically, but he would have been the shorter man in this one, with the lower center of gravity. Against Cooney, he showed he could be perfectly comfortable filling this unusual role. His cross armed defense would have afforded him more protection than usual. Bowe would be in an unfamiliar position of being forced to give ground.

Most of the excitement in this one would have been over the potential for an abrupt ending at any time, but at the end, it would have been a fairly pedantic points win for the lumbering oldster, moving incessantly forward behind his reincarnated jab.
Old Foreman outjabbing Bowe? He was Holyfield's punching bag for 10 out of 12 rounds, how is he going to beat Bowe who handled the same Holyfield comfortably?

Old Foreman cannot hang with the big boys of the 90's.. Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe. He basically went 50/50 with fringe contenders. I think Bowe is not as good as many people make him out to be, but in my opinion he's certainly good enough to beat an old, slow Foreman.

I know you think very low of any 12 round fighter, but i suggest you watch film of Bowe in 1992 and Foreman in 1991 AND realise that Foreman never fought 15 rounds!

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Old 07-26-2007, 05:58 AM   #15
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If you turn off capslock i'll actually go and read your argument.
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