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Old 08-24-2008, 08:49 PM   #16
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Yea but Hagler had like 7 out of 62 fights during this period.

Leonard 8 out of 36

etc etc...

sure some of them were define but I think they belong in an era before... not too bothered though...
They were some of the biggest fights, its illogical to not include them. A lot of the early fights were against bums, I'd say a good percentage of the fights that actually make up their status as a legend are during this period.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:49 PM   #17
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As shot as Tszyu?
Zarate was a damn sight more shot than Zoo (and you know it!!), you've gone up in my estimation by mentioning Callejas. Don't waste it....
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:52 PM   #18
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Zarate was a damn sight more shot than Zoo (and you know it!!), you've gone up in my estimation by mentioning Callejas. Don't waste it....
I know, nearly had ya there

Zarate was a terrific fighter, and could be justified as a top 5 Mexican fighter all-time. Peak he'd beat Fenech's ass.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:54 PM   #19
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Dude with all the Hatton haters on here - I can't believe you've picked on me..
im not,im a massive hatton fan thats been to his last 2 fights,how can you pick out hatton as "the weak link" in that list,he might not be as gifted as other fighters but he gets the job done with whats put in front of him.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:55 PM   #20
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Remember though that this isn't necessarily best boxers ever - but legends of the sport.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:56 PM   #21
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im not,im a massive hatton fan thats been to his last 2 fights,how can you pick out hatton as "the weak link" in that list,he might not be as gifted as other fighters but he gets the job done with whats put in front of him.
Hang on

The list...

Mayweather, Jones , Leonard, Hearns, Chavez, Lopez, Whittaker, Galaxy, Tyson, Holyfield, Curry, Hagler, Hatton.

He honestly doesn't stand out to you in this list?
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:57 PM   #22
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im not,im a massive hatton fan thats been to his last 2 fights,how can you pick out hatton as "the weak link" in that list,he might not be as gifted as other fighters but he gets the job done with whats put in front of him.
I like Hatton, I'm honestly not arguing with you. Some people may not like to admit it but he helped bring an awful lot of people back into boxing.
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:00 PM   #23
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I think its fair to say he stands out in my list.....;O)
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:01 PM   #24
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Do popularity and legend have to go hand in hand; just a question? Can you have a legend that nobody has really heard of?
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Can you have a legend that nobody has really heard of?
IMO yes. For instance Lopez is a legend, Hatton isn't. Thats just my take on things.
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Do popularity and legend have to go hand in hand; just a question? Can you have a legend that nobody has really heard of?
What do you mean by nobody? I'd consider people that post on boxing sites hardcore fans, and they'll know anybody reasonably mentioned on these lists. It doesn't matter if Joe Public knows them

I don't think you have to be popular or fight like Gatti or some shit though. Is Arturo Gatti a legend because he fights like a guy in a bar room brawl?

Classic example, Ricardo Lopez. Hardly ever discussed, pretty much under appreciated because of his size, but a legend in the true sense. A good resume and outstanding skills, which should be the main criteria
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:11 PM   #27
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This whole legend thing is hard to nail down. I think it goes further then greatest fighters.... it's a bit like HOF I guess... takes in the whole package perhaps including stuff outside skills...

So far I have inducted into my legendary HOF

Learnard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, RJJ, and Tyson... Tyson snook in and I just couldn't say no... more inductees to come... My personal HOF is quite strict on inductees... as you can see... with the exception of Mike..
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This whole legend thing is hard to nail down. I think it goes further then greatest fighters.... it's a bit like HOF I guess...

So far I have inducted into my legendary HOF

Learnard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, RJJ, and Tyson... Tyson snook in and I just couldn't say no... more inductees to come... My personal HOF is quite strict on inductees... as you can see... with the exception of mike..
How wouldn't Pernell Whitaker get in at the very least?

He has to be absolutely nailed on.
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:16 PM   #29
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What do you mean by nobody? I'd consider people that post on boxing sites hardcore fans, and they'll know anybody reasonably mentioned on these lists. It doesn't matter if Joe Public knows them

I don't think you have to be popular or fight like Gatti or some shit though. Is Arturo Gatti a legend because he fights like a guy in a bar room brawl?

Classic example, Ricardo Lopez. Hardly ever discussed, pretty much under appreciated because of his size, but a legend in the true sense. A good resume and outstanding skills, which should be the main criteria
Thats fine, but I was aiming at the thread being a bit different to a list of the greatest fighters of the last 25 years (there have been loads of those)- for example Barry Mcguigan is a Legend in some ways but he's not the greatest ever boxer.
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Whitaker is a cert.
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