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Old 07-29-2007, 01:28 PM   #1
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Basically, the best fighters with the "worst" records at a passing glance.

Livingstone Bramble comes to mind. 40-26.

Braddock's 51-26 comes to mind as well.

Most wouldn't assume one of the greatest fighters of all time would have a 90-25 record, like Ezzard Charles does.

And speaking of Ezzard, Jersey Joe comes to mind. 51-18.

Not putting any of these guys down, just saying the uninformed could very well come to the wrong conclusion just looking at the numbers.
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Reggie Strickland

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Old 07-29-2007, 01:42 PM   #3
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Guys lost close to 300 times but only been KO'ed a handful of times.

Christ, reminds me of Ross Purrity times ten.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:47 PM   #4
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Freddie Pendleton wasn't too bad either and his record was something like

47-26-5-34.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:51 PM   #5
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Joey Maxim
Joe Brown
Jersey Joe Walcott
George Chip
Emile Griffith
Eddie Perkins
Carlos Chavez
Ezzard Charles
Jimmy Bivins


and my favourite:

ED WILLIAMS
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Ali 56-5
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:57 PM   #7
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Ali 56-5

He can be lucky that he got some strange decisions, otherwise he would have at least 2 defeats more...
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How in gods name is 56-5 misleading?
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How in gods name is 56-5 misleading?
You know it, for some people Ali is god and the p4p-king easily...
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He can be lucky that he got some strange decisions, otherwise he would have at least 2 defeats more...
What strange decisions, Luigi?
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You know it, for some people Ali is god and the p4p-king easily...
Yeah. Even the hugely uninformed wouldn't look at that record and think anything bad of it, though.
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What strange decisions, Luigi?

Perhaps Ken Norton? Young? Never saw that fights objective? Some questionables stoppages who were way too early over... Ali is lucky to retired with 56-5...
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I have seen both those fights. He didn't lose them. Norton was close, but Kenny blew the last round. Young wasn't close. You don't win fights by trying to run out of the ring (or whatever the hell it was Young was doing). I don't know what fights were questionable stoppages. You can't be talking about Lyle. Ali had Lyle in all kinds of trouble and Lyle was returning no fire. I have never counted how many unanswered punches Lyle was hit with, but they must have numbered in the several dozen.

It sounds to me like you are biased against Ali in a big way. You're running down the best heavyweight who ever lived. Is that what bugs you? That he was so great? Is there some other heavyweight or heavyweights you wish people would recognize were better?
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Buck Smith closely followed by Willie Pep
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I have seen both those fights. He didn't lose them. Norton was close, but Kenny blew the last round. Young wasn't close. You don't win fights by trying to run out of the ring (or whatever the hell it was Young was doing). I don't know what fights were questionable stoppages. You can't be talking about Lyle. Ali had Lyle in all kinds of trouble and Lyle was returning no fire. I have never counted how many unanswered punches Lyle was hit with, but they must have numbered in the several dozen.

It sounds to me like you are biased against Ali in a big way. You're running down the best heavyweight who ever lived. Is that what bugs you? That he was so great? Is there some other heavyweight or heavyweights you wish people would recognize were better?

IMO itīs out of question that Ali is one of the greatest fighters ever. But I criticized that someone named Aliīs 56-5- record as a perfect example for misleading record, as if he was unbeatable or so, you get now what I meant?
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