Pac @147

juanitoboxing · 09-01-2008, 02:57 PM

Now, I really doubt this will happen, but what if Pac actually looks really good at decides to stay at ww. How do you rate him against the rest of the division? The reason why I ask this question is because Pac is looking at retirement in the near future and ww definetely has the fighters to secure his future.

juanitoboxing · 09-01-2008, 03:08 PM

I agree, could you see many trading with Cotto?? OMG he would get destroyed

SFPLAYBOY415 · 09-01-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by heart

he will get fucked. one of pacs biggest qualities is strength and power which will relatively diminish at welter. I think he'll have a hard time at lightweight.

Don't get me wrong, I like pac but that's what ultimately might happen. Pac may have power in the lighter divisions but he ain't going to be knocking out anyone at 147(i.e. paul williams, cotto, MARGARITO, cintron etc.) He also may have a good chin but against these big punchers??? Cmon now! and speed will only get you so far. Personally i'd say that jr. welterweight should be his last stop(even that's pushing it). BUT, i guess in the end, we all first have to see how he ACTUALLY performs at WW.

roly · 09-01-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by juanitoboxing

I agree, could you see many trading with Cotto?? OMG he would get destroyed

but you said if he looks really good against oscar, and oscar has more power than cotto.

saul_ir34 · 09-01-2008, 03:30 PM

Yea i cant wait for Margarito-Pac. Hmmm who would i bet my money on????

Are you serious? People are still so hung up on the Pac-Diaz fight. Great move by Arum to make Manny seem superhuman after the close encounter with JMM. People look at JMM. He has just avg power at superfeather and he managed to stun and hurt Pac on more than one ocassion in their last fight.
Imagine what a Cotto left hook, Cintron straight right, or an uppercut from Margarito would do to him.

It would be murder.

TommyV · 09-01-2008, 03:43 PM

Margarito stops him. Cotto stops him. Margarito stops him. Cintrons stops him. Williams stops him.

A few more aswell.

To put it simply.

FAIL.

klion22 · 09-01-2008, 05:20 PM

Man, i would love to see Margarito or Williams and Pacman standing next to each other just to see the huge difference in size.

redmond22588 · 09-01-2008, 05:33 PM

i say judah kills him at 147 and so would the likes of quintana,collazo

Silvermags · 09-01-2008, 11:41 PM

yeah! everybody kills pac! while he is being killed in your dreams he will make over 15,000,000 usd on DEC!

Sting · 09-01-2008, 11:44 PM

Not gonna happen. He and Arum made it clear after the Diaz fight that they are not going past 147. The only reason Pac is fighting at 147 right now is because of DLH and the money he will bring.

I assure you after this fight, Pac will go back down to 140 and 135 and finish his career there.

eliqueiros · 09-02-2008, 12:57 AM

I really can't imagine Pac winning any fights at welter.

enzo · 09-02-2008, 12:59 AM

He better stay away from 147 or retire instead if he knows whats good for him.

mad_takamura · 09-02-2008, 01:17 AM

I saw a report that hoya-pac 147pnds. is just a 1 fight oddysey for pac he won't be staying there. He's only there because that's the best weight teampac thinks pac can be effective against hoya. Plus they just wanna catch up with hoya before he says goodbye to boxing, so ridiculous as it seems pac wants to face hoya for money and to further pac up his legacy one time at 147.

cuchulain · 09-02-2008, 01:46 AM

Can't say till I see him at 147, but I don't expect him to be competitive there.

Taylor_brogdon · 09-02-2008, 02:28 AM

IF he wins, it would be a MAJOR boost in his legacy, just think he started at 106 fucking pounds!!! Won his first title at 112!!! The man is an enigma.

09-01-2008, 02:57 PM	#1
juanitoboxing Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 4,411 vCash: 1000	Pac @147 Now, I really doubt this will happen, but what if Pac actually looks really good at decides to stay at ww. How do you rate him against the rest of the division? The reason why I ask this question is because Pac is looking at retirement in the near future and ww definetely has the fighters to secure his future.
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09-01-2008, 03:08 PM	#2
juanitoboxing Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 4,411 vCash: 1000	Re: Pac @147 I agree, could you see many trading with Cotto?? OMG he would get destroyed
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saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,216 vCash: 675	Re: Pac @147 Yea i cant wait for Margarito-Pac. Hmmm who would i bet my money on???? Are you serious? People are still so hung up on the Pac-Diaz fight. Great move by Arum to make Manny seem superhuman after the close encounter with JMM. People look at JMM. He has just avg power at superfeather and he managed to stun and hurt Pac on more than one ocassion in their last fight. Imagine what a Cotto left hook, Cintron straight right, or an uppercut from Margarito would do to him. It would be murder.
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09-01-2008, 03:43 PM	#6
TommyV Spit That Mad Game Yo! East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South-East/Greater London. Posts: 51,672 vCash: 1987	Re: Pac @147 Margarito stops him. Cotto stops him. Margarito stops him. Cintrons stops him. Williams stops him. A few more aswell. To put it simply. FAIL.
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09-01-2008, 05:20 PM	#7
klion22 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 10,520 vCash: 3000	Re: Pac @147 Man, i would love to see Margarito or Williams and Pacman standing next to each other just to see the huge difference in size.
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09-01-2008, 05:33 PM	#8
redmond22588 Blood and Guts ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: PA, United States Posts: 628 vCash: 75	Re: Pac @147 i say judah kills him at 147 and so would the likes of quintana,collazo
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Silvermags Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,221 vCash: 1000	Re: Pac @147 yeah! everybody kills pac! while he is being killed in your dreams he will make over 15,000,000 usd on DEC!
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09-01-2008, 11:44 PM	#10
Sting Akagami no Shanks ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Behind you.. Posts: 1,512 vCash: 100	Re: Pac @147 Not gonna happen. He and Arum made it clear after the Diaz fight that they are not going past 147. The only reason Pac is fighting at 147 right now is because of DLH and the money he will bring. I assure you after this fight, Pac will go back down to 140 and 135 and finish his career there.
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09-02-2008, 12:57 AM	#11
eliqueiros P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17,854 vCash: 289	Re: Pac @147 I really can't imagine Pac winning any fights at welter.
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09-02-2008, 12:59 AM	#12
enzo Greatest Of All Time East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: nowhere near Posts: 17,474 vCash: 75	Re: Pac @147 He better stay away from 147 or retire instead if he knows whats good for him.
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09-02-2008, 01:17 AM	#13
mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anywhere where there is trouble Posts: 1,606 vCash: 1000	Re: Pac @147 I saw a report that hoya-pac 147pnds. is just a 1 fight oddysey for pac he won't be staying there. He's only there because that's the best weight teampac thinks pac can be effective against hoya. Plus they just wanna catch up with hoya before he says goodbye to boxing, so ridiculous as it seems pac wants to face hoya for money and to further pac up his legacy one time at 147. Last edited by mad_takamura; 09-02-2008 at 01:48 AM.
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09-02-2008, 01:46 AM	#14
cuchulain P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Muirthemne Posts: 18,854 vCash: 1000	Re: Pac @147 Can't say till I see him at 147, but I don't expect him to be competitive there.
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09-02-2008, 02:28 AM	#15
Taylor_brogdon Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,585 vCash: 1136	Re: Pac @147 IF he wins, it would be a MAJOR boost in his legacy, just think he started at 106 fucking pounds!!! Won his first title at 112!!! The man is an enigma.
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