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Old 06-20-2007, 10:33 PM   #16
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You had to feel sorry for the kid on Jonathan Ross, everyone was like 'who the **** is that??' while Hatton's acting as if he's in his local boozer and everyone knows him. Guy's deluded
You make that sound pretty bad. Are you being deceptive mate?
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:33 PM   #17
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You had to feel sorry for the kid on Jonathan Ross, everyone was like 'who the **** is that??' while Hatton's acting as if he's in his local boozer and everyone knows him. Guy's deluded
I'm starting to get the sense you don't like him .
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:55 PM   #18
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I love Ricky, but I do think he has issues. And all he ever seems to come out with is 'Ricky Hatton's just one of you', 'Ricky Hatton just likes a pie and a pint', 'Ricky Hatton's humble', 'Ricky Hatton's modest', 'Ricky Hatton knows the fans just want two blokes laying into eachother then having a pie and a pint with them after', etc, over and over and over

Give it a rest mate, Please
The problem is pretty much every member of the press says it when they are either talking to him or about him , so the it gets stuck into Ricky's head and he keeps mentioning it himself .
It is a bit annoying , but at least it's true .
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:19 PM   #19
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Just for the sake of gauging boxing's popularity over there, I wonder this. By comparison, Jermain Taylor is the undisputed middleweight champ, and I would be very generous if I were to say that 25% of US citizens know who he is. Would you consider Joe Calzaghe to be what we call crossover in England?
You would be generous if you were to say that 25% of US citizens know who Taylor is? You would be generous if you were to say that 0.25% knew that he was even a boxer!
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:23 PM   #20
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I'd say that at least half of all americans know who de la hoya is.
Maybe. You take into account all types of people from all walks of life, I think the only boxers you can confidently say more than half the public knows as household names are Tyson and Ali (maybe Foreman). DLH is a name that anyone who a) is remotely into boxing, b) knows someone who's passionately into boxing, or c) is into sports period - will know. a+b+c does not = 1/2 the population.

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Old 06-21-2007, 02:10 AM   #21
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Maybe. You take into account all types of people from all walks of life, I think the only boxers you can confidently say more than half the public knows as household names are Tyson and Ali (maybe Foreman). DLH is a name that anyone who a) is remotely into boxing, b) knows someone who's passionately into boxing, or c) is into sports period - will know. a+b+c does not = 1/2 the population.
That's not true. People who have friends that are sports fans, boxing fans, or watch tv at all know who de la hoya is. i work at a grocery store in a small northern california town and there were women in their 60's talking to me about how they were going to watch the fight with their husbands, sons, etc. de la hoya is very well known.
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:17 AM   #22
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That's not true. People who have friends that are sports fans, boxing fans, or watch tv at all know who de la hoya is. i work at a grocery store in a small northern california town and there were women in their 60's talking to me about how they were going to watch the fight with their husbands, sons, etc. de la hoya is very well known.
ok well that's Cali (not to mention the inescapable heavy multimedia promotion that preceded FMJ-DLH...but that kind of awareness goes in one ear and out the other of non-fans). you think soccermom housewives in Nebraska know who he is? or homeless guys on the streets of Raleigh? high school kids in Bangor? in the big picture boxing is pretty fringe. names like ali have endured from the time that it wasn't. the only name to have really truly penetrated the collective frame of reference since, is Tyson. DLH is easily the closest behind Mike, but I just don't think he has that kind of name recognition.

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Old 06-21-2007, 02:22 AM   #23
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Probably 80% would know Kessler in his home country. Last year he was voted sportsman of the year. Not boxer of the year, but sportsman of the year. How many other boxer has that?

I can only imagine Pac might have. Noone else.
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:45 AM   #24
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Both undefeated Ring Magazine champions? Has that ever happened??

But Taylor ****ed up against Spinks

It's a sign of the times, my friend.
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:49 AM   #25
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Calzaghe would be much better known in Britain than Taylor is in the states .

You see thats what I was looking for when I started this thread. Thank you
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:52 AM   #26
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I'd say that at least half of all americans know who de la hoya is.

Mmmmmm perhaps that might be a bit liberal. Give or take you're probably right though. De La Hoya, Tyson, Lewis, and Holyfield are the only names people might recognize in boxing as far as the US goes, and they are all fighters of a bygone era! Mayweather is doing well enough, but his style gets progressively more boring as he moves up in weight and adjusts his style. He's also not particularly likeable, and he is already talking retirement.
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:20 AM   #27
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wait a minute, i'd say at least 50% of Brits know who Hatton is.
I think at most 50% of British blokes who are supposed to be into sport would say they had heard of him but only down the pub, in front of their mates...
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:04 AM   #28
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calzaghe is god in britain. end of thread
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:10 AM   #29
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calzaghe is god in britain. end of thread
yeah, but only 6.3% of British people go to Church...

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Old 06-21-2007, 08:29 AM   #30
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Probably 80% would know Kessler in his home country. Last year he was voted sportsman of the year. Not boxer of the year, but sportsman of the year. How many other boxer has that?

I can only imagine Pac might have. Noone else.
Calzaghe and Hatton were among the 6 or 7 sports personalities to be nominated.

The ones who won in the end were a joke. Without being biased none of them deserved to be above Calzaghe.
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