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View Poll Results: Is Ezzard Charles in your top 5 pound-for-pound of all-time?
YES he is. 25 56.82%
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:09 PM   #16
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:09 PM   #17
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:33 PM   #18
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You think I should bump RJJ above Greb?
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:55 PM   #19
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My list will be controversal to some having RJJ and Mayweather there, but I use the literal term of P4P - who would be the best of the best if they were the same weight in their primes, combined with how they performed against the best of the best in their respective divisions. So I see RJJ beating Greb at 160-168 and Mayweather beating Armstrong at 130-140

1. SRR
2. Duran
3. Charles
4. Langford
5. Greb
6. RJJ
7. Pepp
8. Mayweather
9. Ali
10. Armstrong
* Duran is too high at #2.

* RJJ and Mayweather's being anywhere near the top 10 is indefensible. Indefensible!

* You spelled Pep's name wrong. That extra "p" points toward your perpetration of presenting a peculiarly polemic post with a parade of pugilistic poop.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:55 PM   #20
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If i do a list i think he'd come in 5-10.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:58 PM   #21
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If i do a list i think he'd come in 5-10.
Closer to 5 than 10, but I'm with you.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:01 PM   #22
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* Duran is too high at #2.

* RJJ and Mayweather's being anywhere near the top 10 is indefensible. Indefensible!

* You spelled Pep's name wrong. That extra "p" points toward your perpetration of presenting a peculiarly polemic post with a parade of pugilistic poop.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:15 PM   #23
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Please vote. It's a simple YES or NO here.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:22 PM   #24
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My list will be controversal to some having RJJ and Mayweather there, but I use the literal term of P4P - who would be the best of the best if they were the same weight in their primes, combined with how they performed against the best of the best in their respective divisions. So I see RJJ beating Greb at 160-168 and Mayweather beating Armstrong at 130-140

1. SRR
2. Duran
3. Charles
4. Langford
5. Greb
6. RJJ
7. Pepp
8. Mayweather
9. Ali
10. Armstrong
I knew you'd crucified for such a list. Any fighter who started his career from the 80's onwards in your top 10 and you're asking for it.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:27 PM   #25
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Closer to 5 than 10, but I'm with you.

I'm sure it will come out that way for me, yes. While not having thought much on it i really don't think i can find him a spot above Duran.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:38 PM   #26
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I knew you'd crucified for such a list. Any fighter who started his career from the 80's onwards in your top 10 and you're asking for it.
So today it's the 80s. Before it was the 40s. Let's get serious here: make a defense for either of these guys being above Ray Leonard -never mind guys like Armstrong.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:56 PM   #27
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He is my top 25 I am still working on BTW I just added "Nonpareil" Jack Dempsey

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Old 09-10-2008, 08:18 PM   #28
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So today it's the 80s. Before it was the 40s. Let's get serious here: make a defense for either of these guys being above Ray Leonard -never mind guys like Armstrong.

Today it's the 80's, last week it was the 40's, next week it could be the 20's, maybe it could be the 70's, but more than likely it will be the 60's.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:26 PM   #29
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So today it's the 80s. Before it was the 40s. Let's get serious here: make a defense for either of these guys being above Ray Leonard -never mind guys like Armstrong.
Your right I forgot Leonard, pop him in above Pep and drop Henry out the top 10

My argument is simple, P4P is about how fighters compete if they were the same weight and Mayweather comfortably beats Armstrong for my money as does Duran, as does Whitaker

If Armstrong weighed 168 does he beat RJJ? He could well lose every round

I can't see anyone living with a Prime RJJ P4P, including Greb, he'd most likely lose a wide wide UD. And they fought at the same weight so RJJ has to be up there
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