Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins??

bumdujour · 07-30-2007, 06:28 PM

the wild swinging powerpuncher vs the bodypunching marathon runner.

cuevas was the bigger hitter.......and palomino was there to be hit!!

but carlos had a great chin and if he could get past the first couple of rounds his bodypunching could create big big problems for pipino.

i like pipino better, but palominos style might be right to upset cuevas via late stoppage.

GazOC · 07-30-2007, 06:33 PM

Cuevas by mid round KO. He was one hell of puncher in his prime and doesn't get the respect he deserves because of the Hearns KO.

hdog · 07-30-2007, 06:45 PM

I saw Cuevas' fight with Campinino. Looked prety damn good. Boxed a bit and pretty fast hands. I think more highly of him after seeing that fight.

redrooster · 07-30-2007, 07:07 PM

Cuevas by crushing ko

bumdujour · 07-30-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hdog

I saw Cuevas' fight with Campinino. Looked prety damn good. Boxed a bit and pretty fast hands. I think more highly of him after seeing that fight.

its new on youtube isnt it...

but his fight with ranzany is impressive too.

hdog · 07-30-2007, 07:54 PM

yes it is. the ranzany fight was ok but i think he boxed better in the campinino fight.

TBooze · 07-31-2007, 01:11 PM

Cuevas was fun to watch and when in form, he was an excellent fighter. But Palomino although not as exciting was a lot more consistant; and I did not see Palomino knocked out too often...

Palomino WU15

bumdujour · 07-31-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hdog

yes it is. the ranzany fight was ok but i think he boxed better in the campinino fight.

well, there was a reason for it: Ranzany was the much better fighter and offered a threat.
ranzany was taller and had a good jab so cuevas had to get in close so he really piled on the pressure.

campanino looked more like a jr. welterweight and fought totally defensively so cuevas picked his spots.

My dinner with Conteh · 07-31-2007, 01:53 PM

Palomino's body work would slow Cuevas down in the second half of the fight and wear his man down and win by late stoppage- behind on the cards, surviving flash knockdown around Round 4.
Result: Carlos TKO 13.

Sonny Carson · 07-31-2007, 10:07 PM

Palominio had a chin made of Iron. If he fight's Cuevas after Hearns fought him he stops Cuevas in the 13th round. If he fight's him before Hearns did I don't know who wins.

Street Lethal · 07-31-2007, 10:35 PM

Can somebody steer me to the fight in which Palomino looked like this?

[url]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXOsD9uhLI&mode=related&search=[/url]

Street Lethal · 07-31-2007, 10:44 PM

And that's just not one fight in which Cuevas was flattened. I don't show that clip unfairly. Cuevas was flattened a lot. He was easy to hit and he didn't take that great of a shot. Palomino was way tougher. A prime Duran put Palomino through hell, but Palomino took it. Duran bombed Cuevas out of there. Cuevas was an exciting banger, but he is being overrated here. Palomino was just too talented. I pick Palomino by mid-round stoppage (and Carlos wasn't that big of a puncher). Keep in mind that all the while Cuevas held the WBA title, he was really a contender. Palomino was the champion of the world. A defense against Cuevas would have been against a worthy contender, but Palomino would have successfully defended his title. The fight between Palomino and Benitez was damned close. Palomino was an excellent boxer.

good right hand · 07-31-2007, 10:47 PM

i think palimino would just take cuevas' shots and out work him like how ivan robinson did to arturo gatti.

palomino was very well rounded and although i havent seen to much of cuevas (only espana, duran and hearns), i saw palomino being hit by every legal and illegal shot that can be thrown a pretty darn strong fighter in roberto duran and he was there at the end.

i think palomino will just take rounds and win a decent decision , but after being dropped at least once i assume.

redrooster · 07-31-2007, 11:01 PM

Cuevas was one of those fighters who went downhill overnight. You can say the same about Sonny Liston too.

But Cuevas was the true champion as far as I was concerned not Palomino.

At the end of the fight you could see that Campanino wasn't just knocked out, he was damaged. Cuevas did that too people. He destroyed everyone, even the great Harold Weston. Clyde Gray went in two. Ranzany in two. Billy Backus in one. Espada in two.

The accomplishments of Palomino pale in comparison.

Cojimar 1945 · 08-01-2007, 03:18 AM

He didn't destroy Hearns.

07-30-2007, 06:28 PM	#1
bumdujour Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: you´re not alive unless you´re almost dying!! Posts: 1,496 vCash: 1000	Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? the wild swinging powerpuncher vs the bodypunching marathon runner. cuevas was the bigger hitter.......and palomino was there to be hit!! but carlos had a great chin and if he could get past the first couple of rounds his bodypunching could create big big problems for pipino. i like pipino better, but palominos style might be right to upset cuevas via late stoppage.
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07-30-2007, 06:33 PM	#2
GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Spion Kop Posts: 30,812 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? Cuevas by mid round KO. He was one hell of puncher in his prime and doesn't get the respect he deserves because of the Hearns KO.
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07-30-2007, 06:45 PM	#3
hdog Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 144 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? I saw Cuevas' fight with Campinino. Looked prety damn good. Boxed a bit and pretty fast hands. I think more highly of him after seeing that fight.
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07-30-2007, 07:07 PM	#4
redrooster Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,762 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? Cuevas by crushing ko
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07-30-2007, 07:54 PM	#6
hdog Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 144 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? yes it is. the ranzany fight was ok but i think he boxed better in the campinino fight.
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07-31-2007, 01:11 PM	#7
TBooze Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South of London Posts: 9,788 vCash: 0	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? Cuevas was fun to watch and when in form, he was an excellent fighter. But Palomino although not as exciting was a lot more consistant; and I did not see Palomino knocked out too often... Palomino WU15
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07-31-2007, 01:53 PM	#9
My dinner with Conteh Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,828 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? Palomino's body work would slow Cuevas down in the second half of the fight and wear his man down and win by late stoppage- behind on the cards, surviving flash knockdown around Round 4. Result: Carlos TKO 13.
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07-31-2007, 10:07 PM	#10
Sonny Carson Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,492 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? Palominio had a chin made of Iron. If he fight's Cuevas after Hearns fought him he stops Cuevas in the 13th round. If he fight's him before Hearns did I don't know who wins.
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07-31-2007, 10:35 PM	#11
Street Lethal Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 493 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? Can somebody steer me to the fight in which Palomino looked like this? [url]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXOsD9uhLI&mode=related&search=[/url]
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07-31-2007, 10:44 PM	#12
Street Lethal Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 493 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? And that's just not one fight in which Cuevas was flattened. I don't show that clip unfairly. Cuevas was flattened a lot. He was easy to hit and he didn't take that great of a shot. Palomino was way tougher. A prime Duran put Palomino through hell, but Palomino took it. Duran bombed Cuevas out of there. Cuevas was an exciting banger, but he is being overrated here. Palomino was just too talented. I pick Palomino by mid-round stoppage (and Carlos wasn't that big of a puncher). Keep in mind that all the while Cuevas held the WBA title, he was really a contender. Palomino was the champion of the world. A defense against Cuevas would have been against a worthy contender, but Palomino would have successfully defended his title. The fight between Palomino and Benitez was damned close. Palomino was an excellent boxer.
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07-31-2007, 10:47 PM	#13
good right hand Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Go to the body... there's organs in there Posts: 938 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? i think palimino would just take cuevas' shots and out work him like how ivan robinson did to arturo gatti. palomino was very well rounded and although i havent seen to much of cuevas (only espana, duran and hearns), i saw palomino being hit by every legal and illegal shot that can be thrown a pretty darn strong fighter in roberto duran and he was there at the end. i think palomino will just take rounds and win a decent decision , but after being dropped at least once i assume.
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07-31-2007, 11:01 PM	#14
redrooster Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,762 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? Cuevas was one of those fighters who went downhill overnight. You can say the same about Sonny Liston too. But Cuevas was the true champion as far as I was concerned not Palomino. At the end of the fight you could see that Campanino wasn't just knocked out, he was damaged. Cuevas did that too people. He destroyed everyone, even the great Harold Weston. Clyde Gray went in two. Ranzany in two. Billy Backus in one. Espada in two. The accomplishments of Palomino pale in comparison.
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08-01-2007, 03:18 AM	#15
Cojimar 1945 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 185 vCash: 1000	Re: Pipino Cuevas vs Carlos Palomino......who wins?? He didn't destroy Hearns.
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