Bruce Lee in the UFC (welterweight) or K1 max

RonnieHornschuh · 09-12-2008, 07:20 AM

would he dominate?

québecwarrior · 09-12-2008, 08:15 AM

He was a great athlete, but if we teleporte the Bruce Lee exactly how he was? He would get beat pretty easily by a guy like Urijah Faber by exemple. But if he was to learn the sport and all the different technic, then yes, he was always training great, great mind. He could had be something good because he was a great athlete.
But like he was back then? no way in hell

Polymath · 09-12-2008, 10:43 AM

Id like to see him fight a gorilla

Primenal · 09-19-2008, 02:38 AM

Bruce would have ripped the guys apart even with there rules. Ali said Bruce Lee's feet were faster than his hands!
I take Geen Kune doe, and a lot of the shit you can't use in a MMA fight. Teaches you a lot of street fighting...Going for eyes, throat, groin, knees, etc. You can still use backhands, and mule kicks though (just not to the knee). I'm sure he'd just blast somebody to the stomache with a mule kick, and it wouldn't take much more than that.
For his size he was freaky strong anyways, but mainly because of his speed. NOBODY near his size would stand a chance. The dude trained 6 days a week like 8 hour days, and the 7th day he'd spar. How can you beat that kind of mental/ physichal strength? Something like supposedly .5% body fat. Of course he isn't unbeatable, but it'd take one HELL OF A MAN to stop him, and I guarantee you won't find those men fighting in UFC. Maybe the monks who live in monestaries, and there whole life is fighting, and living off the land. Those men might have tore Bruce apart, but not some TOUGH GUY who participate in more bar fights than MMA matches.

Polymath · 09-19-2008, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Primenal

Bruce would have ripped the guys apart even with there rules. Ali said Bruce Lee's feet were faster than his hands!
I take Geen Kune doe, and a lot of the shit you can't use in a MMA fight. Teaches you a lot of street fighting...Going for eyes, throat, groin, knees, etc. You can still use backhands, and mule kicks though (just not to the knee). I'm sure he'd just blast somebody to the stomache with a mule kick, and it wouldn't take much more than that.
For his size he was freaky strong anyways, but mainly because of his speed. NOBODY near his size would stand a chance. The dude trained 6 days a week like 8 hour days, and the 7th day he'd spar. How can you beat that kind of mental/ physichal strength? Something like supposedly .5% body fat. Of course he isn't unbeatable, but it'd take one HELL OF A MAN to stop him, and I guarantee you won't find those men fighting in UFC. Maybe the monks who live in monestaries, and there whole life is fighting, and living off the land. Those men might have tore Bruce apart, but not some TOUGH GUY who participate in more bar fights than MMA matches.

This really just highlights the general BS that is this post

Dostoevsky · 09-19-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by megadeth

Bruce was well versed in ground fighting, jiu jitsu, wrestling, boxing as well as many other martial arts. There wasnt alot of ground fighting in his movies, but if u watch them, u can see him using some techniques. Just because they werent prominant in his movies, doesnt mean he wasnt trained in the grappling techniques. They just dont lend themselves to being as exciting as high kicks or fast punches(in real life, Bruce rarely kicked high, but did alot in his movies).

I think any MMA fighter would have LOTS of problems even with the Bruce of 1972. His speed & power would be a huge problem for any of them and If he had(this i dont know) any real knowledge of guarding again the takedown, he could just apply them and be a better, faster, more talented version of Chuck Liddell and still be very successful.

Check out his speed & power and tell me there wouldnt be problems!!

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Post a single shred of evidence to support this claim.
Bruce gets taken down and submitted, speed is irrelevant when you're being bearhugged and taken to the floor.

ufoalf · 09-19-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Polymath

This really just highlights the general BS that is this post

.5%

He's either terrible at math or at anatomy. Either way it's below grade school.

Dostoevsky · 09-19-2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Polymath

This really just highlights the general BS that is this post

Dunno....I thought this part was an even clearer indicator of BS:

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Of course he isn't unbeatable, but it'd take one HELL OF A MAN to stop him, and I guarantee you won't find those men fighting in UFC. Maybe the monks who live in monestaries

Polymath · 09-19-2008, 03:15 AM

You know when somebody says something so embarrassing its actually a little physically painful?

PIRA · 09-19-2008, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Primenal

Bruce would have ripped the guys apart even with there rules. Ali said Bruce Lee's feet were faster than his hands!
I take Geen Kune doe, and a lot of the shit you can't use in a MMA fight. Teaches you a lot of street fighting...Going for eyes, throat, groin, knees, etc. You can still use backhands, and mule kicks though (just not to the knee). I'm sure he'd just blast somebody to the stomache with a mule kick, and it wouldn't take much more than that.
For his size he was freaky strong anyways, but mainly because of his speed. NOBODY near his size would stand a chance. The dude trained 6 days a week like 8 hour days, and the 7th day he'd spar. How can you beat that kind of mental/ physichal strength? Something like supposedly .5% body fat. Of course he isn't unbeatable, but it'd take one HELL OF A MAN to stop him, and I guarantee you won't find those men fighting in UFC. Maybe the monks who live in monestaries, and there whole life is fighting, and living off the land. Those men might have tore Bruce apart, but not some TOUGH GUY who participate in more bar fights than MMA matches.

LOL - hilarious post. The man never fought anyone of note, was so scared of Thai fighters that he forbid any Muay Thai to be used in "The Big Boss" and was schooled by Gene LeBell. His legacy is based on entertainment value, myth, personality and very open ideas rather than any measurable combat victories.

Tko4 · 09-19-2008, 07:49 PM

The traditional martial arts are highly overrated, and Bruce Lee is also overrated. Sure, he was fast and athletic, and given the training would probably do as well as any other quality athlete in MMA. Transport him from 1972 into a cage though, and he gets carried out in a body bag if he's up against any competent fighter. Real fighting doesn't work like in the movies: IE a spin kick is only going to work one in every thousand times you try it.

younghypnotiq · 09-19-2008, 07:59 PM

lmfao. bruce would get raped.

Canibus81 · 10-08-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PIRA

LOL - hilarious post. The man never fought anyone of note, was so scared of Thai fighters that he forbid any Muay Thai to be used in "The Big Boss" and was schooled by Gene LeBell. His legacy is based on entertainment value, myth, personality and very open ideas rather than any measurable combat victories.

He Ko'ed a Muay Thai fighter on the set of the big boss and it was confirmed by one of the film directors on the set. Intercepting Fist is the name of the documentary BTW. Don't know where you get the info about him being scared of Muay Thai fighters, sounds like something you made up or heard(most likely from other sources) because of your biasness towards Bruce. And Gene Lebell gave Bruce tons of credit for his abilities. Lebell was a Judo expert, wrestling, and submission expert. So of course Bruce couldn't beat him in that one specific area, but that doesn't mean he could beat Bruce in a straight up fight just cause he was good grappler.(cause it's called a fight, not a wrestling or judo match) And logic would tell you being that he was extremely knowledgable in MMA as we know today, in the 70's, than he was very ahead of his time. He knew a lot about the importance of conditioing as well and was very stragegic in his approach to the martial arts as a whole, so he'd be a pretty formable combatant in a fanasty like matchup. All of this is a matter of opinion, we'll never know.

Canibus81 · 10-08-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tko4

Real fighting doesn't work like in the movies:

He said that himself. So why would try to fight someone like he does in the movies?

Chaney · 10-08-2008, 07:35 PM

I respect Bruce Lee for what he achieved, he is a cultural icon and hugely influential. He changed the way the world sees martial arts.

And he would beat up many untrained tough guys in his own weight class, and some above it, IMHO.

But against a top quality trained fighter? I think he would have to be a serious underdog, even at his own weight (Nevermind all that stupidity of Lee having a chance against Tyson or Fedor!)

Here is why: Lee is skilled, athletic, dedicated...but we have ZERO evidence if he could take punishment and come back for more. Amir Kahn looked great until somebody hit him. No fighter can be great unless he has that innate toughness. No amount of training can compensate for its absence (as Kahn proved)

What evidence do we have that Lee would be any more resilient? None.

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québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,849 vCash: 1000	Re: Bruce Lee in the UFC (welterweight) or K1 max He was a great athlete, but if we teleporte the Bruce Lee exactly how he was? He would get beat pretty easily by a guy like Urijah Faber by exemple. But if he was to learn the sport and all the different technic, then yes, he was always training great, great mind. He could had be something good because he was a great athlete. But like he was back then? no way in hell
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Primenal Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,294 vCash: 1000	Re: Bruce Lee in the UFC (welterweight) or K1 max Bruce would have ripped the guys apart even with there rules. Ali said Bruce Lee's feet were faster than his hands! I take Geen Kune doe, and a lot of the shit you can't use in a MMA fight. Teaches you a lot of street fighting...Going for eyes, throat, groin, knees, etc. You can still use backhands, and mule kicks though (just not to the knee). I'm sure he'd just blast somebody to the stomache with a mule kick, and it wouldn't take much more than that. For his size he was freaky strong anyways, but mainly because of his speed. NOBODY near his size would stand a chance. The dude trained 6 days a week like 8 hour days, and the 7th day he'd spar. How can you beat that kind of mental/ physichal strength? Something like supposedly .5% body fat. Of course he isn't unbeatable, but it'd take one HELL OF A MAN to stop him, and I guarantee you won't find those men fighting in UFC. Maybe the monks who live in monestaries, and there whole life is fighting, and living off the land. Those men might have tore Bruce apart, but not some TOUGH GUY who participate in more bar fights than MMA matches.
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Tko4 Left high kick ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 3,010 vCash: 1000	Re: Bruce Lee in the UFC (welterweight) or K1 max The traditional martial arts are highly overrated, and Bruce Lee is also overrated. Sure, he was fast and athletic, and given the training would probably do as well as any other quality athlete in MMA. Transport him from 1972 into a cage though, and he gets carried out in a body bag if he's up against any competent fighter. Real fighting doesn't work like in the movies: IE a spin kick is only going to work one in every thousand times you try it.
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younghypnotiq Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 10,986 vCash: 1000	Re: Bruce Lee in the UFC (welterweight) or K1 max lmfao. bruce would get raped.
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Chaney Mystery and Imagination ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Starving in the belly of a whale Posts: 4,237 vCash: 1000	Re: Bruce Lee in the UFC (welterweight) or K1 max I respect Bruce Lee for what he achieved, he is a cultural icon and hugely influential. He changed the way the world sees martial arts. And he would beat up many untrained tough guys in his own weight class, and some above it, IMHO. But against a top quality trained fighter? I think he would have to be a serious underdog, even at his own weight (Nevermind all that stupidity of Lee having a chance against Tyson or Fedor!) Here is why: Lee is skilled, athletic, dedicated...but we have ZERO evidence if he could take punishment and come back for more. Amir Kahn looked great until somebody hit him. No fighter can be great unless he has that innate toughness. No amount of training can compensate for its absence (as Kahn proved) What evidence do we have that Lee would be any more resilient? None.
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