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Old 09-14-2008, 11:13 AM   #1
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I was interested to read Barry McGuigan's comments about Amir Khan in the Mirror. Previously, McGuigan has been known to sing the highest praises about Khan and, although he has often shown concern about his defence, I would say he was firmly on the bandwagon.

Now all of a sudden, he is talking about 'the huge division that exists between amateur and professional boxing', suggesting that Khan is suffering from an amateur style, saying that pros punch differently and all kinds of things that haven't seemed relevant before - yet he has often said "this kid has got it all".

He goes on to say that Prescott will always be a shadow hanging over him, that he will always be a doubt in big match-ups, and pretty much writing off his future chances.

Not that I believe Khan is still a world-beater, or ever was, but McGuigan seems to make no apologies for all the smoke he's been blowing up Khan's behind in recent years.
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:17 AM   #2
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Good old Barry
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:21 AM   #3
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:22 AM   #4
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"It is about how you throw the punches, where your chin is, head and upper body movement, turning the wrists over, gripping the canvas with your toes - all of which is different in the pros"
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:26 AM   #5
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Default Re: Barry McGuigan has changed his tune

I thought that was an excellent article, it petty much summed up what I was thinking watching the Olympic boxing tourney. With most top ams you used to be able to see they'd make top pros, that not the case these days with the scoring system in amateur boxing being how it is.
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:29 AM   #6
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The mexicans got the right idea

Barrera was a pro at 15

**** the amateurs

These Mexican are hardened to the pro game

Khan is a pampered fighter

Barrera was WBO World Champion at 21 years old

But more importantly was the real No 1 super bantamweight at just 21 years old with 35 to 40 odd fights under his belt

thats a real hardened pro

Audley and Khan are just amateur "stars"
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Old 09-14-2008, 01:31 PM   #7
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Old 09-14-2008, 01:54 PM   #8
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There was a very good Mexican teenager at the Olympics - got beaten in the first round but some long-armed guy from Mongolia but everytime this kid got the bigger guy cornered he was giving him all sorts of problems.

*Searches wikipedia*

Oscar Valdez - one to watch
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:11 PM   #9
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Barry is Irish.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:13 PM   #10
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Barry is good mates with Colin Jones - they fought in the same era.

I remeber years ago when I was a kid Barry came down to the gym behind my garden - true.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:23 PM   #11
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Barry is one crazy fool
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Old 09-14-2008, 03:01 PM   #12
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There was a very good Mexican teenager at the Olympics - got beaten in the first round but some long-armed guy from Mongolia but everytime this kid got the bigger guy cornered he was giving him all sorts of problems.

*Searches wikipedia*

Oscar Valdez - one to watch
i remember valdez, he was throwing some lovely textbook body shot's, very tidy and very good on the inside aswell. He could go very far in the pro's. Only 17...
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:59 PM   #13
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i remember valdez, he was throwing some lovely textbook body shot's, very tidy and very good on the inside aswell. He could go very far in the pro's. Only 17...
He looks a fantastic prospect, I was very impressed with him and as you say only 17....could really go places.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:02 AM   #14
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I think that the mainstream need to get off the whole hypetrain regarding top amateur boxers who achieve success at Olympic games.

Whilst that is a great achievement, it does not take away from the fact that Amateur and Professional boxing are two completely different sports these days, much like Rugby League and Rugby Union.

Many of the leading P4P fighters these days didn't have much of an amateur career to speak of - i.e. winning Olympic gold medals etc etc, whilst many of those that do simply cannot fight in a manner to be successful (Khan and Audley are two great examples). Because.......

1. Headguards protect/hide glass chins
2. If shaken, you are given a standing 8 rather than simply being finished off
3. The scoring system does not promote inside fighting/combos/ring generalship
4. Open scoring encourages running - something which will lose you fights as a pro

Certain leading amateurs can make the transition - such as Lennox, DLH, Wlad, PBF, RJJ etc, but back in those days the game wasn't as different as it is now. Could you really see the likes of David Price turning pro and succeeding, because I can't.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:29 AM   #15
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But you're right, it's gotten worse over the years - potshotting and running away are the order of the day.
Or hitting without being hit?
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