Tito's Notable Opponents, WOW!

bronx · 09-24-2008, 05:12 PM

Roy Jone @ 170 - Former HW champ enough said!
Winky Wright @ 160 - No excuse, Tito looked bad in this one.
Bernard Hopkins @ 160 - Former Light Heavyweight champ.

William Joppy - @ 160 - KTFO in Five!!!!
Ricardo Mayorga @ 160 - What a fight! Tito softened him up now everybody wants to fight Mayorga.

@ 154 and Below, Look!!!!

Pernell Whitaker - HOF
Oscar De La Hoya - Undefeated when they met
David Reid - Undefeated when they met
Fernando Vargas - Undefeated when they met
Yuri Boy Campas - Undefeated when they met
Macho Camacho - HOF
Oba Carr - Undefeated when they met
Maurice Blocker - First Tite shot

These are all top tier guys Tito managed to beat all of them most of them below 154lbs, only lost to men much bigger than him that were also better boxers.

Now is he a top 5 all time great WW?

With the Robinson, Hearns and Leonards????

I think so!

Ya'll must have forgot so let me remind you.

nickfoxx · 09-24-2008, 05:15 PM

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no one forgot, everyone gives tito an immense amount of respect

Rilz · 09-24-2008, 05:19 PM

damn that is impressive

r_9-Ronaldo · 09-24-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nickfoxx

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no one forgot, everyone gives tito an immense amount of respect

true where did this guy pull this 1 out of

Zaryu · 09-24-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nickfoxx

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no one forgot, everyone gives tito an immense amount of respect

Not everyone, but there is a respectable number. But some people here try to discredit Tito's legacy big time.

BazookaJab · 09-24-2008, 05:23 PM

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the cobra · 09-24-2008, 05:23 PM

Top 15 Welterweight for sure IMO, I don't think he cracks the top 10 though in arguably the deepest division in boxing history.

Looked damn impressive against Joppy, who, whatever his shortcomings, proved himself to be a very tough fighter and Tito butchered him.

No doubt a legit ATG.

catasyou · 09-24-2008, 05:26 PM

Tito was great

r_9-Ronaldo · 09-24-2008, 05:27 PM

based on his accomplishments at welterweight I would put him in my top10 without a doubt

Montero · 09-24-2008, 05:28 PM

Specifically at WW Tito won the IBF belt and defended it 15 times, then unified it with the WBC, then moevd up. I am one of those that feels De la Hoya won their fight, but it was very close and a great achievement either way. He beat Whitaker fair and square, although Pernell was past his best at that time. Those are the only two hall of famers he faced at WW.

All in all at WW Trinidad's resume is impressive - but i'd say he's not a top five ATG 147 pounder though, more like a top ten.

nickfoxx · 09-24-2008, 05:29 PM

the bottom line is whether he was top 5, top 10, top 15 or whatever, we won't ever have to argue about how good his resume is, because, like a long list of TRUE champions before him (hagler and carbajal spring to mind immediately), he took on the absolute best in his divisions and beat most of them... so we won't ever have threads like how good was b-hop's resume, how good was calzaghe's resume, how good was roy jones' resume, etc? THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT TITO

Snarky · 09-24-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nickfoxx

the bottom line is whether he was top 5, top 10, top 15 or whatever, we won't ever have to argue about how good his resume is, because, like a long list of TRUE champions before him (hagler and carbajal spring to mind immediately), he took on the absolute best in his divisions and beat most of them... so we won't ever have threads like how good was b-hop's resume, how good was calzaghe's resume, how good was roy jones' resume, etc? THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT TITO

"Touche"

r_9-Ronaldo · 09-24-2008, 05:36 PM

if margarito fights either one of clottey or williams then goes on to unify the division he will also go down as one of the best WW's of all time. probably won't happen but you never know( I do think the one fighter out there that can beat him is Joshua Clottey, Paul Williams 50-50 but Clottey i'm pretty sure just because of his great chin and speed/power that he can beat Margarito with the correct tactics).

Thread Stealer · 09-24-2008, 05:37 PM

Top 5 WW all-time? Nah.

I don't blame Tito, I blame Don King (whom Trinidad sued to try to get out of the contract so he could get bigger fights), but for most of his WW reign (except for 1994 which was a very good year), Tito's opposition was less than stellar.

Once Don King started properly promoting him (Chavez was done by the late 90s and Tyson left King), then Trinidad started getting the big fights he rightly deserved.

I think I've watched the Trinidad-Vargas fight more than any other fight.

soxfan57 · 09-24-2008, 05:37 PM

His resume is very impressive when u compare him to other modern world class fighters

09-24-2008, 05:12 PM	#1
bronx Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Bronx Baby Posts: 6,107 vCash: 1124	Tito's Notable Opponents, WOW! Roy Jone @ 170 - Former HW champ enough said! Winky Wright @ 160 - No excuse, Tito looked bad in this one. Bernard Hopkins @ 160 - Former Light Heavyweight champ. William Joppy - @ 160 - KTFO in Five!!!! Ricardo Mayorga @ 160 - What a fight! Tito softened him up now everybody wants to fight Mayorga. @ 154 and Below, Look!!!! Pernell Whitaker - HOF Oscar De La Hoya - Undefeated when they met David Reid - Undefeated when they met Fernando Vargas - Undefeated when they met Yuri Boy Campas - Undefeated when they met Macho Camacho - HOF Oba Carr - Undefeated when they met Maurice Blocker - First Tite shot These are all top tier guys Tito managed to beat all of them most of them below 154lbs, only lost to men much bigger than him that were also better boxers. Now is he a top 5 all time great WW? With the Robinson, Hearns and Leonards???? I think so! Ya'll must have forgot so let me remind you. Last edited by bronx; 09-25-2008 at 12:45 PM.
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the cobra Awesomeizationism! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,914 vCash: 1000	Re: Tito's Notable Opponents, WOW! Top 15 Welterweight for sure IMO, I don't think he cracks the top 10 though in arguably the deepest division in boxing history. Looked damn impressive against Joppy, who, whatever his shortcomings, proved himself to be a very tough fighter and Tito butchered him. No doubt a legit ATG.
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Montero Left Hook from HELL!!! East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 7,320 vCash: 1000	Re: Tito's Notable Opponents, WOW! Specifically at WW Tito won the IBF belt and defended it 15 times, then unified it with the WBC, then moevd up. I am one of those that feels De la Hoya won their fight, but it was very close and a great achievement either way. He beat Whitaker fair and square, although Pernell was past his best at that time. Those are the only two hall of famers he faced at WW. All in all at WW Trinidad's resume is impressive - but i'd say he's not a top five ATG 147 pounder though, more like a top ten.
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nickfoxx On The Nod ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,609 vCash: 75	Re: Tito's Notable Opponents, WOW! the bottom line is whether he was top 5, top 10, top 15 or whatever, we won't ever have to argue about how good his resume is, because, like a long list of TRUE champions before him (hagler and carbajal spring to mind immediately), he took on the absolute best in his divisions and beat most of them... so we won't ever have threads like how good was b-hop's resume, how good was calzaghe's resume, how good was roy jones' resume, etc? THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT TITO
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r_9-Ronaldo Shinny Shadez ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 786 vCash: 1000	Re: Tito's Notable Opponents, WOW! if margarito fights either one of clottey or williams then goes on to unify the division he will also go down as one of the best WW's of all time. probably won't happen but you never know( I do think the one fighter out there that can beat him is Joshua Clottey, Paul Williams 50-50 but Clottey i'm pretty sure just because of his great chin and speed/power that he can beat Margarito with the correct tactics).
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Thread Stealer P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 16,470 vCash: 1000	Re: Tito's Notable Opponents, WOW! Top 5 WW all-time? Nah. I don't blame Tito, I blame Don King (whom Trinidad sued to try to get out of the contract so he could get bigger fights), but for most of his WW reign (except for 1994 which was a very good year), Tito's opposition was less than stellar. Once Don King started properly promoting him (Chavez was done by the late 90s and Tyson left King), then Trinidad started getting the big fights he rightly deserved. I think I've watched the Trinidad-Vargas fight more than any other fight.
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