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Old 12-13-2012, 02:51 AM   #3271
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Got loads of rare Shanker stuff. A bit noodling at times. Ain't he Norah Jones' Dad?
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:53 AM   #3272
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Yeah, not 40 year old Marquez. JMM has been entering the ring at about 140 or so for years now though. He was over that for Pac II I believe. A more prime Marquez would hold his own with most great Jr. Welters.

He beasts a bit with them there roids.
Few years back he was briefly stunned by Juan Diaz and sat on his arse by Katsidis. Put him in with better fighters and I'm not so sure.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:56 PM   #3273
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Got loads of rare Shanker stuff. A bit noodling at times. Ain't he Norah Jones' Dad?
Aye. What kind of rare stuff?

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Few years back he was briefly stunned by Juan Diaz and sat on his arse by Katsidis. Put him in with better fighters and I'm not so sure.
I think a lot of guys could put him on his ass. Finishing him is another matter. We saw him in with a much, much better fighter than those two and he did just fine on four different occasions.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:06 PM   #3274
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The last two times 'roided up IMO.

I dunno', mainly my Dads, he has some live sessions and copies of vinyls that haven't been re-issued on CD I think, he loves his stuff has loads of it.

I like it, but it's a mixed bag for me, sonically, not always my thing.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:20 PM   #3275
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The last two times 'roided up IMO.
Maybe. Probably, actually, for last Saturday. Still, roids aren't going to give him that calm under fire, which has been a trademark of his. Maybe some additional brute strength to his shots that happened to produce ridiculous and completely unprecedented effects on a rival, but probably not too much in regards to keeping composure and picking his spots. He could survive Pac, one of the better pure offensive forces we've seen in decades, without roids, and I think he's proven that pretty conclusively throughout the series.

I'm not saying he goes the distance with and troubles absolutely everybody around 135-140. Just most of them.

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I dunno', mainly my Dads, he has some live sessions and copies of vinyls that haven't been re-issued on CD I think, he loves his stuff has loads of it.

I like it, but it's a mixed bag for me, sonically, not always my thing.
He seemed to wander about at times. It was probably the whole point of it all - musical exploration and what not - but I'd agree that not all of it is terribly gripping or pleasant to listen to.

A pretty interesting guy all the same.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:18 PM   #3276
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I think he'd do alright. Not too many greats in that division's history to begin with, but he could hang with damn near every one of them.
140 is dammed deep when you count everyone who held a belt there. Canzoneri, Ross, Ortiz, Loi, Locche, Perkins, Cervantes, Benitez, Pryor, Mamby, Chavez, Tszyu (Fleas favorite), Saensak. Other guys who held belts there however briefly: de la Hoya, Whitaker, Mayweather. And there are a few guys who did a lot out work around that weight without holding the belt, for one reason or another: Armstrong, Duran, Napoles.

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Old 12-13-2012, 11:28 PM   #3277
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:10 AM   #3278
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They both look like they haven't changed one bit
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His thicker goatee won him the fight.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:59 PM   #3281
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I could look like that in three months with no supplements aside from whey.

These guys are very small men in reality... It's just hard to see them injecting their butt cheeks with synthetic test and weighing no more than 150ish even though it happens, and they do. I don't know, maybe it's because I train for hypertrophy. HGH however could do bigger wonders for recovery and endurance.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:44 PM   #3282
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For me it's how JMM's legs have come back to him.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:02 PM   #3283
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Anyone ever visit Japan?
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For me it's how JMM's legs have come back to him.
Growth Hormone would definitely assist there and could be bang-on, Flea. Would probably be my guess too. So would testosterone really, but it's just hard for me to envision a professional athlete taking significant amounts of the latter (say a 10-12 week cycle at 500-750 mg a week), eating as clean as they do and being as active as they are and not blowing up way out of the weight class, especially if he was incorporating strength training. Injectables cause far less bloating than an oral (like dianabol or anadrol) and don't do a fraction of the liver damage but take time to work-- it's really effective shit at putting on serious muscle mass if you're not sitting on the couch and expecting miracles. When they cycle off, you've also got to run some post-cycle therapy drugs (just as illegal in many places and would fail a legit PED test) because your natural testosterone production shuts down from all the exogenous shit you've been pumping into your body. Without any form of PCT you end shrunken nuts and man boobs from the estrogen conversion of your body trying to maintain it's normal balance. Not a guru at all, but I don't think HGH even comes out from a piss test.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:20 AM   #3285
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