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Garrus · 01-12-2013, 03:16 PM

Can a modern fighter surpass Greb?

Take a 20yr old, and put him in today's scene.

What would he have to do?

LittleRed · 01-12-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrus

Can a modern fighter surpass Greb?

Take a 20yr old, and put him in today's scene.

What would he have to do?

Something dramatic. One up Henry Armstrong (hold the Ring belts from feather to middle simultaneously), or Fitz (become legit world champion from middle on up), or just kick everyones ass for like 15 years. If someone could do what Chavez did only beat that version of Whitaker and make it to 100-0 he's the man. Or won titles in 10 out 12 weight classes.

the cobra · 01-12-2013, 03:51 PM

Beat every single ranked contender across about 5 or 6 divisions, hope that there are a dozen or so ATG's in the mix there. Try really, really hard not to lose, ever.

It's possible, at least, if not at all probable.

Garrus · 01-12-2013, 04:03 PM

Sounds like Mayweather.

Nightcrawler · 01-12-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrus

Can a modern fighter surpass Greb?

Take a 20yr old, and put him in today's scene.

What would he have to do?

i think it's possible but very hard. you're looking at quality versus quantity cause his record will never be matched.

so you need a fighter in a STACKED division (let's say a peak welter/middle era) who could dominate 147, unify and collect HOF level scalps before moving up to middleweight at age 26, unify the belts, collect several HOF level scalps and rule both his era and the next generation over a period of 5-10 years.

He would have to be ranked number 1 pound for pound for the majority of his run. along the way, he would have to beat top ranked light heavies and heavies while never leaving his home division. let`s say he beats the next great heavyweight champ while weighing no more than 165...

That man MIGHT be ranked higher than greb

the cobra · 01-12-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrus

Sounds like Mayweather.

If he had done the bit about 'every ranked contender' and a 'dozen or so ATG's' whle remaining unbeaten across 5 divisions, then yeah, Floyd would be right there with Greb.

LittleRed · 01-12-2013, 04:43 PM

Really? No one would rate someone who pulled an Armstrong plus above Greb?

Nightcrawler · 01-12-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Something dramatic. One up Henry Armstrong (hold the Ring belts from feather to middle simultaneously), or Fitz (become legit world champion from middle on up), or just kick everyones ass for like 15 years. If someone could do what Chavez did only beat that version of Whitaker and make it to 100-0 he's the man. Or won titles in 10 out 12 weight classes.

i like it but it would depend on the opposition. chavez for instance lost to almost every elite, hall of famer level fighter he fought. was he past his best for most of them...absolutely. but to pass greb, i see the armstrong scenario PLUS beating a significant number of elite opponents.

orriray59 · 01-12-2013, 05:13 PM

Boxers today don't fight like Greb did, who'd have a bout every month or so. They peak on fight night then rest for several months, hence why a guy like Floyd is unbeaten. If you stuck him in with a top fighter, then four or five average fighters then a top fighter over a series of months, no doubt he'd have picked up several losses by now.

LittleRed · 01-12-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

i like it but it would depend on the opposition. chavez for instance lost to almost every elite, hall of famer level fighter he fought. was he past his best for most of them...absolutely. but to pass greb, i see the armstrong scenario PLUS beating a significant number of elite opponents.

You do that over that many divisions its bound to include several elite fighters. Find me one 5 year period where beating the top contenders over those weight classes would not include some greats.

the cobra · 01-13-2013, 07:49 PM

Saw Django Unchained today. Fucking fantastic. No one makes films like Tarantino.

Great performances all around, as well.

Slip! · 01-13-2013, 08:19 PM

Are there any rape scenes in it?

NWS · 01-13-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the cobra

Saw Django Unchained today. Fucking fantastic. No one makes films like Tarantino.

Great performances all around, as well.

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Originally Posted by Slip!

Are there any rape scenes in it?

Are there any foot scenes in it?

the cobra · 01-13-2013, 08:31 PM

No rape.

Feet are shown. Most often covered up by boots - even some that have shiny, gold spurs on them - but there's an instance or two of bare feet thrown in there.

LittleRed · 01-13-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NWS

Are there any foot scenes in it?

Just one or two brief scenes.

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01-12-2013, 03:51 PM	#3408
the cobra Awesomeizationism! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,991 vCash: 1000	Re: Post Your Pic/Talk About Anything Thread Beat every single ranked contender across about 5 or 6 divisions, hope that there are a dozen or so ATG's in the mix there. Try really, really hard not to lose, ever. It's possible, at least, if not at all probable.
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Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: A Hero Forever Loyal To The Flames Of War, Rests in Outer Heaven Posts: 7,590 vCash: 157	Re: Post Your Pic/Talk About Anything Thread Sounds like Mayweather.
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orriray59 weird East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Green Isle Posts: 13,246 vCash: 82	Re: Post Your Pic/Talk About Anything Thread Boxers today don't fight like Greb did, who'd have a bout every month or so. They peak on fight night then rest for several months, hence why a guy like Floyd is unbeaten. If you stuck him in with a top fighter, then four or five average fighters then a top fighter over a series of months, no doubt he'd have picked up several losses by now.
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the cobra Awesomeizationism! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,991 vCash: 1000	Re: Post Your Pic/Talk About Anything Thread Saw Django Unchained today. Fucking fantastic. No one makes films like Tarantino. Great performances all around, as well.
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01-13-2013, 08:31 PM	#3419
the cobra Awesomeizationism! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,991 vCash: 1000	Re: Post Your Pic/Talk About Anything Thread No rape. Feet are shown. Most often covered up by boots - even some that have shiny, gold spurs on them - but there's an instance or two of bare feet thrown in there.
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