Rewatched Calzaghe-Lacy

achillesthegreat · 08-01-2007, 04:04 PM

It was Joe Calzaghes Diego Corrales, his Flexi Trinidad, it was his night and even though Lacy really did try for 12 rounds it was never meant to be.

Joe was pretty much punch perfect and literally didn't appear to put a foot wrong.

I think his intangiables were shown to be something we did not know. We always knew Joe could go 12 but at 35 he just looked to be able to go none stop. We knew Joe had a chin but in the first round, the one punch he does take is a huge right hand but nothing happened.

I still think Lacy hasn't gotten enough credit for what he endured.

Jinx · 08-01-2007, 04:14 PM

too bad Lacy is nowhere near Corrales and especially Trinidad...but still a great performance against a good fighter...

achillesthegreat · 08-01-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinx

too bad Lacy is nowhere near Corrales and especially Trinidad...but still a great performance against a good fighter...

Same thing could be said about Corrales just after the Floyd fight.

Undefeated IBF champ with some good wins, then he got dominated and had a long lay off. Remind you of anyone?

Before you know it, he is back, kicking arse, in the P4P list, two weight world champ, in one of the best fights ever and then deemed by many a great fighter!

Thread Stealer · 08-01-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinx

too bad Lacy is nowhere near Corrales and especially Trinidad...but still a great performance against a good fighter...

Agreed.

I have to laugh when people say crap like "this is the greatest performance of the last decade" or stuff like that. Caliber of opposition must be taken into consideration.

That being said, Calzaghe fought extremely well in dominating Lacy and for the 2nd straight year, is now fighting someone that basically everyone wants him to fight.

achillesthegreat · 08-01-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Erratic Behavior

Agreed.

I have to laugh when people say crap like "this is the greatest performance of the last decade" or stuff like that. Caliber of opposition must be taken into consideration.

That being said, Calzaghe fought extremely well in dominating Lacy and for the 2nd straight year, is now fighting someone that basically everyone wants him to fight.

Calibre - an undefeated world champion.

People suddenly call Lacy crap but with nothing proven. What moron is going to cite the Tsypko fight. A fight that was going much like the first until his arm CLEARLY gets injured. So badly injured that he is still out. With ONE arm he still won in the mind of many.

Betty Swollocks · 08-01-2007, 04:20 PM

I had it 115-114 for Lacy and still say he got a raw deal from the hometown judges.

Thread Stealer · 08-01-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by achillesthegreat

Calibre - an undefeated world champion.

People suddenly call Lacy crap but with nothing proven. What moron is going to cite the Tsypko fight. A fight that was going much like the first until his arm CLEARLY gets injured. So badly injured that he is still out. With ONE arm he still won in the mind of many.

Lacy is a pretty good, top-level 168 fighter. I never called him crap.

I'm talking about those who say crap like "Calzaghe-Lacy was the best performance of the decade".

Complete nonsense.

China_hand_Joe · 08-01-2007, 04:21 PM

It was the greatest display of pure fighting ability ever seen -fullstop-

Jinx · 08-01-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by achillesthegreat

Same thing could be said about Corrales just after the Floyd fight.

Undefeated IBF champ with some good wins, then he got dominated and had a long lay off. Remind you of anyone?

Before you know it, he is back, kicking arse, in the P4P list, two weight world champ, in one of the best fights ever and then deemed by many a great fighter!

can you really picture Lacy being a two weight champ? no way he beats Dawson at 175, and he barely beat Skeika and Vitaly T...

tays001 · 08-01-2007, 04:21 PM

good fight

achillesthegreat · 08-01-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Erratic Behavior

Lacy is a pretty good, top-level 168 fighter. I never called him crap.

I'm talking about those who say crap like "Calzaghe-Lacy was the best performance of the decade".

Complete nonsense.

I think it can be argued as the best performance of the decade.

You also have to take into consideration foresight, not only hindsight.

Axe · 08-01-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinx

can you really picture Lacy being a two weight champ? no way he beats Dawson at 175, and he barely beat Skeika and Vitaly T...

Beat Sheka fairly imo by the skin of his teeth and should have lost a UD to Tsypko.

achillesthegreat · 08-01-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinx

can you really picture Lacy being a two weight champ? no way he beats Dawson at 175, and he barely beat Skeika and Vitaly T...

He CLEARLY beat Sheika. Why do boxing fans love to create myths. I had that fight 8-3-1.

Tsypko in the first fight was eating right hands like they were going out of fashion. Same in the second fight, Lacy gets badly injured yet still makes it amazingly close.

Lacy has the arguably the biggest heart in boxing. The way he endured what Calzaghe did to him and the injury is amazing.

Who knows what Lacy can do. He still has a lot to do.

I'm sure many would believe Corrales couldn't beat a slick southpaw like Casa but he got himself a loss, a jab, a good coach, some more experience and was in a better place in his life and BOOM - UD over Casa!

Look at Corrales-Freitas. He damn near lost 6 rounds or so but then Freitas yielded. When a man gets dropped by Eric Harding and I think Tomasz Adamek then you got to think what a fully bloodied Lacy shot can do.

I'm still up for giving Lacy a chance. He deserves it.

EpsilonAxis · 08-01-2007, 04:26 PM

People talk shit about Lacy now, but you have to look at it from who was favored at the time.

Lacy was favored by the majority as an unstoppable powerhouse. He was taken apart like it was nobody's business.

Thread Stealer · 08-01-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by achillesthegreat

I think it can be argued as the best performance of the decade.

You also have to take into consideration foresight, not only hindsight.

Hindsight going in:

Lacy= one of the top 168 lb fighters in the world.

Mosley= top 2 p4p fighter, first to clearly beat De La Hoya, then dominated his next 3 opponents

Trinidad= top 2 p4p fighter, just destroyed the 2nd best middleweight in the world

Barrera= top 5 p4p fighter, recognized featherweight champion.

Corrales= OK, The Ring overrated him by ranking him #5 p4p. He was still a better fighter than Lacy.

Vernon Forrest dominated a prime, undefeated Shane Mosley. Manny Pacquiao MOVED UP IN WEIGHT and dominated a great/ATG in Marco Antonio Barrera. Bernard Hopkins dominated a great/ATF in Felix Trinidad. Floyd Mayweather shutout and dropped Chico Corrales 5 times.

Joe Calzaghe dominated Jeff Lacy. Lacy was a tough, strong, young fighter, but lesser than Chico and certainly lesser than Sugar Shane, Tito, and Marco.

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achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,202 vCash: 1000	Rewatched Calzaghe-Lacy It was Joe Calzaghes Diego Corrales, his Flexi Trinidad, it was his night and even though Lacy really did try for 12 rounds it was never meant to be. Joe was pretty much punch perfect and literally didn't appear to put a foot wrong. I think his intangiables were shown to be something we did not know. We always knew Joe could go 12 but at 35 he just looked to be able to go none stop. We knew Joe had a chin but in the first round, the one punch he does take is a huge right hand but nothing happened. I still think Lacy hasn't gotten enough credit for what he endured.
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EpsilonAxis HNIC East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pop pop pop! Posts: 12,121 vCash: 2296	Re: Rewatched Calzaghe-Lacy People talk shit about Lacy now, but you have to look at it from who was favored at the time. Lacy was favored by the majority as an unstoppable powerhouse. He was taken apart like it was nobody's business.
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