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View Poll Results: LaMotta-Lacy
LaMotta KO 9 29.03%
LaMotta Decision 14 45.16%
Lacy KO 6 19.35%
Lacy Decision 2 6.45%
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:31 AM   #16
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Default Re: Jake LaMotta vs. Jeff Lacy @ 168 lbs

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Bullshit, the shots he was taking from Robinson prove his chin, watch the goddamn fights, watch the shots he was taking clean without falling, that's what proves your chin, not that you were able to last the distance with someone.
Robinson himself said he wasn't a puncher naturally, it was the punches they didn't see that he scored KOs with, mostly. The punches he was hitting LaMotta with weren't the ones Jake didn't see coming. I can come up with tens of fights where you could see a fighter take a terrible beating and who actually lasted the distance, and weren't out on their feet like LaMotta was.
Even light-hitting Dauthuille had him on Queer-street before he got too careless at the end.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:43 AM   #17
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find a clip .. lets see ..
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:43 AM   #18
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ray robinson has one of the highest knock out lists of all time.. noooo he couldnt be a hard hitter...ray robinson?? no not at all he wasnt a hitter
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:32 AM   #19
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That's what he said himself. But, of course, boxing fans know it better than the fighter himself.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:36 AM   #20
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lets see the clip dude ... if you got a clip cool .. if not why bring it up? .. if your so strong in your opinon .. why not post the proof.. hell even post the clip of lamotta saying it ..

dont just spew shit without any evidence ...
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:45 AM   #21
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Default Re: Jake LaMotta vs. Jeff Lacy @ 168 lbs

Clip of what? Of Robinson saying he's not a puncher naturally? That's coming not from a clip, but from a book by a guy who interviewed Robinson about this. 'The Big Punchers' by Reg Gutteridge.
Or if you mean LaMotta on Queer-street vs Dauthuille, before the rallies to stop the Frenchman, it's an easily obtainable video, as a standalone clip or in multiple documentaries.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:00 AM   #22
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You know it from what sources? From that Fullmer KO? But that was exactly the case I described - a punch Fullmer didn't see coming.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:07 AM   #23
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i dont care if he seen it bro .. his head turned a complete 180 ..

i dont care if he went to a fortune teller.. seen the punch in the crystal ball..

mother ****er was goin down anyhow
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:13 AM   #24
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I can't see anyway for Lacy to win this fight. He's durable but I think LaMotta would stop him late.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:31 AM   #25
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Ever heard of Irish Bob Murphy, I wonder? Murphy was one of the hardest-hitting light heavyweights alive, possibly one of the hardest-hitting of all time, and had a very high knockout percentage, which should make Mr. Krieg happy, and was considered the heir apparent to the light heavweight championship. He pelted a well-past-his-prime LaMotta with some of his best shots for seven rounds in their first fight and couldn't put him down even once, and LaMotta beat him in the rematch. Bob Satterfield was one of the hardest hitters alive and blasted out multiple big-name heavyweights, but was unable to floor LaMotta despite dealing out a great deal of punishment to him through seven hard-fought rounds.
LaMotta probably had the absolute best chin in the history of boxing, pound-for-pound. I feel very confident in saying that Jeff Lacy would not knock him out.
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:05 AM   #26
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picture 6 ass kicking close fights with a guy who was faster in both foot and hand speed then joe c .. and lacy is gonna compete with that ?...
Lasting 12 rounds with Joe Calzaghe is far more impressive than having a few close fights with Sugar Ray Robinson -fullstop-
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:23 AM   #27
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LaMotta was staggered in the very first round vs Murphy by a straight right, but the most damage was done in the last three rounds, not seven, and he would have floored LaMotta had the latter tried to come out for eighth round.
Both Murphy and Satterfield were very poor boxers. To know what I mean, Earnie Shavers failed to knock out Vicente Rondon, does that mean he has a top-notch chin too?
Joey Maxim beat all three, Robinson, Murphy and Satterfield, while being a natural light heavyweight, same as LaMotta. Guess that makes him stand even higher than the Bronx Bull.
LaMotta has been fighting mostly smaller men, which allowed this legend of his chin rise to unprecedented heights, while there are plenty of fighters who had a chin just as good or better than his.
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:49 AM   #28
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Lamotta by a stop
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:38 PM   #29
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Lasting 12 rounds with Joe Calzaghe is far more impressive than having a few close fights with Sugar Ray Robinson -fullstop-
this may be the dumbest thing i've ever read.
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Based on these stupid responses i know i am the only black person who is a member of this forum.Lamotta had what 90 wins with only 30 or so kos?He had no real power.He wasnt fast and the thing about his chin is that is wasnt as nearly as good as you retards think it was.You clowns act like he was fighting people like Julian Jackson or John Mugabi.Look at their Ko percentages and compare them to the people Lamotta fought.
Lacy would just all over this woman beating punk and stop him early.





...........That's about the only response such drivel merits.

Go learn a little boxing, then come back and see us.

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