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Old 08-04-2007, 01:05 PM   #16
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How about ali v brian london? Or hearns v duran and cuevas?

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Old 08-04-2007, 03:09 PM   #17
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Did Corrales land anything on Mayweather? He didn't seem to be doing anything much in that fight.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:26 PM   #18
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Though they didn't have punch stats in those days, after seeing Willie Pep in his prime, I'm sure he had countless bouts landing a blizzard, without return.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:44 PM   #19
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Thanks for the effort you put into this post mate,

On a pedantic note, I am wondering whether a % comparison is more revealing than "number of punches difference."

For example, Lewis landed 2.27-fold more punches (or 267% more) than Holyfield in their first matchup. Based on the other comparisons you gave, this is clearly very good. Being able to land more than 2 punches for every 1 your opponent lands over the course of 12 rounds.

But, Ali landed 33-fold (3,333%) (!) more punches than Williams in their match up, admittedly only over 3 rounds...

Am still waiting for someone to challenge this figure!!!
Well, Lewis landed 15-fold against Golota 30 to 2! That's a bit better than 2.27...
After that I think it would be the Tyson and Jackson fights, he landed nearly 4 times as many there.

Clearly Ali's is a special total. Conceding so few punches is rare but not unlikely, but landing so many in return is. Botha only managed to land about 9 punches in two rounds against Lewis, but only took 24 in return (the last 4 I think he'd rather have avoided...)

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Old 08-04-2007, 04:11 PM   #20
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Young Griffo vs Pedlar Palmer would be interesting on compubox.

Alegedly neither fighter landed a clean punch!
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:07 PM   #21
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:08 AM   #22
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Thanks for all the input, some interesting fights mentioned, but unfortunately no stats for many of them.

Based on this analysis so far though, would it be fair to say that Ali's performance against Williams is the greatest boxing exhibition ever, from any weight category.

Superior to any performance from SRR et al?
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:35 AM   #23
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Young Griffo vs Pedlar Palmer would be interesting on compubox.

Alegedly neither fighter landed a clean punch!
Have you ever seen those punch stats that the referee, Maxie Moore (with the use of a "clicker" in each hand) came up with for Griffo's fight with McAuliffe, Janitor?
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:00 PM   #24
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Can anyone check Mosley vs. Golden Johnson.

I remember in the 7th round (think) Johnsons landed 0 punches.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:32 PM   #25
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Thanks for all the input, some interesting fights mentioned, but unfortunately no stats for many of them.

Based on this analysis so far though, would it be fair to say that Ali's performance against Williams is the greatest boxing exhibition ever, from any weight category.

Superior to any performance from SRR et al?
I don't know about that. I think you have to take into account the caliber of the opposition. Williams had a nice little winning streak but was years past his prime, and literally a shot fighter.

It was beautiful to watch, but then again, so are some ofother guys' displays against overmatched opponents.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:12 PM   #26
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Hearns - Dough DEwitt............don,t know the stats.....but Hearns threw loads of punches againts very few from Dewitt.....
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:45 PM   #27
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I don't mind whether it is achieved through sheer athleticism and reflexes, or through classic boxing skills, or a combination of the two.

I am merely interested in the purest metric of fighting superiority, the ability to hit and not get hit.

Ali v Williams was 100 punches to 3 over 3 rounds, according to Brittanica Online.

Does anyone know of superior punch stats to this? And what about elite opposition? Who has delivered the best boxing lesson to an elite, prime opponent?
No idea,but Holmes versus Cobb was prety onesided!
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:06 PM   #28
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I hear you,

Can you provide more info on 'the other guys who have excelled against overmatched opponents.' What were their punch stats as a comparison?

Also, while '66 Williams is routinely bagged on this forum I note that

1) he turned up in superb physical condition and
2) at least he appeared to try to land some punches.

In my book, this puts him ahead of guys like Oliver McCall (blubbing instead of fighting), Oleg Maskaev (out of shape) and Ray Mercer (out of shape).


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I don't know about that. I think you have to take into account the caliber of the opposition. Williams had a nice little winning streak but was years past his prime, and literally a shot fighter.

It was beautiful to watch, but then again, so are some ofother guys' displays against overmatched opponents.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:18 PM   #29
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I've never seen someone attempt to compile punchstats for it, but if one did I would imagine that Louis/Schmeling II would feature numbers comparable percentage wise to those given for Ali/Williams, provided one round fights are eligible for mention in the thread.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:23 PM   #30
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It definitely counts, and would be interested to hear the stats.

Of course, the longer the superiority is sustained, the more impressive the performance...

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I've never seen someone attempt to compile punchstats for it, but if one did I would imagine that Louis/Schmeling II would feature numbers comparable percentage wise to those given for Ali/Williams, provided one round fights are eligible for mention in the thread.
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