when was the last time a champion or tittle holder fought a non tittle bout

ripcity · 08-04-2007, 02:04 AM

I'm pretty sure I rember James Toney having a non tittle bout when he hwld the IBF middleweight belt. Was he the last to do this or has it happened sense. I personly think a champion should pu his tittle on the line every time he steps into the ring.

salsanchezfan · 08-04-2007, 02:43 AM

God, that's a great question. They seem to have disappeared.

I have no quarrel with non-title fights. None at all. That would at the very least mean fighters actually fought these days.

ripcity · 08-04-2007, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by salsanchezfan

God, that's a great question. They seem to have disappeared.

I have no quarrel with non-title fights. None at all. That would at the very least mean fighters actually fought these days.

I have no prpbblem with boxers fighting moe often, but I thimk that a vhampion should put his championship on the line every time he fights. If a fight is a non championship fight that indacates that the oponent is npt at the same level as the champion. Therefore yhe fight wou;d be a goriafied sparomg seassion and that dosen't really excite me.

Lex · 08-04-2007, 07:26 AM

In the "old days" non-title fights meant bread on the table for low paid champs at the lighter weight classes. It was a good thing for them then and would be now as well.

It also helped build up interest through rematches. If a challenger did well in a non-title first match, the rematch meant bigger purses with the title on the line.

The upside for non-title bouts is more fights and more opportunities to get paid. That's good for all fighters.

The downside is the potential for abuse. A champ can duck legit contenders if allowed too many non-title fights.

Supposedly the alphabet soup organizations came in to regulate, among other things, the balance of title vs. non-title bouts and prevent title-hogging. As it turns out, the ABC groups have merely replaced one organized crime group with another and the fighters still don't benefit.

Here's my proposal: Let Jin Mosley kick all promoters and presidents of the alphabet soup organizations in the nuts, just for the hell of it. Then, whenever a world champ wants a non-title fight, he can put on a cup and let Jin kick him in the nuts. If he can still stand up after that he's got almost the balls Jin has and deserves the occasional non-title payday.

Pat_Lowe · 08-04-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ripcity

I have no prpbblem with boxers fighting moe often, but I thimk that a vhampion should put his championship on the line every time he fights. If a fight is a non championship fight that indacates that the oponent is npt at the same level as the champion. Therefore yhe fight wou;d be a goriafied sparomg seassion and that dosen't really excite me.

Hitting the piss tonight buddy?

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ripcity Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it." Posts: 12,041 vCash: 856	when was the last time a champion or tittle holder fought a non tittle bout I'm pretty sure I rember James Toney having a non tittle bout when he hwld the IBF middleweight belt. Was he the last to do this or has it happened sense. I personly think a champion should pu his tittle on the line every time he steps into the ring.
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salsanchezfan Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 6,890 vCash: 1000	Re: when was the last time a champion or tittle holder fought a non tittle bout God, that's a great question. They seem to have disappeared. I have no quarrel with non-title fights. None at all. That would at the very least mean fighters actually fought these days.
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08-04-2007, 07:26 AM	#4
Lex Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 191 vCash: 1000	Re: when was the last time a champion or tittle holder fought a non tittle bout In the "old days" non-title fights meant bread on the table for low paid champs at the lighter weight classes. It was a good thing for them then and would be now as well. It also helped build up interest through rematches. If a challenger did well in a non-title first match, the rematch meant bigger purses with the title on the line. The upside for non-title bouts is more fights and more opportunities to get paid. That's good for all fighters. The downside is the potential for abuse. A champ can duck legit contenders if allowed too many non-title fights. Supposedly the alphabet soup organizations came in to regulate, among other things, the balance of title vs. non-title bouts and prevent title-hogging. As it turns out, the ABC groups have merely replaced one organized crime group with another and the fighters still don't benefit. Here's my proposal: Let Jin Mosley kick all promoters and presidents of the alphabet soup organizations in the nuts, just for the hell of it. Then, whenever a world champ wants a non-title fight, he can put on a cup and let Jin kick him in the nuts. If he can still stand up after that he's got almost the balls Jin has and deserves the occasional non-title payday.
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