Do we all agree whoever wins between Kovalev and Ward is #1 pound for pound

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Do we all agree whoever wins between Kovalev and Ward is #1 pound for pound

Poll closed Nov 18, 2016.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Unsure

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Do we all agree whoever wins between Kovalev and Ward is #1 pound for pound?

    IMO, this is the best fight in boxing, featuring two undefeated champions in their primes with contrasting styles!

    Kovalev is currently ranked #2 pound for pound, Ward is #4.

    I can not recall the last time fighters of this pound for pound rank meet each other at the top in their game.

    In my opinion, whoever wins here is pretty much guaranteed a spot in the boxing hall of fame after he retires
     
  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I wouldn't argue with that
     
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  3. Drachenorden

    Drachenorden Active Member Full Member

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    Resume-wise yes (as in recent resume) but it still doesn't necessarily mean that they're actually the most skilled.
     
  4. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No who ever wins becomes a clear 2nd after GGG.

    People forget....GGG already dropped kovalev in sparring. And ward blatantly ducked him.

    Therefore...until u face ggg u ain't taking his crown.
     
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  5. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    I hesitate to do so. Ward hasn't done SQUAT in YEARS and ONE VICTORY over a GREAT NAME doesn't cement him as the P4P KING. Kovalev is a MONSTER and he's been DOMINATING dudes, but they're all pretty B-/B+ level at best. BERNARD was ANCIENT, but it was STILL an IMPRESSIVE victory.

    I'd say Pac should be recognized as the #1 because his resume is insane.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    And if this were 2011, I might agree with your post. In this thread, I'm talking about fighters currently ranked by Ring Magazine in the pound for pound rankings.
     
  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Dont you think Kovalev Beterbiev is a better match up?

    Wards chin simply cant handle what Kovalev brings
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Ring magazine. Owned by Oscar. Who promotes Canelo. No bias at all in those rankings
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes I would agree with that.
     
  10. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    It's not that simple it depends on the fight itself. Either one can look like crap and win by a robbery with the judges help and the result of a fight doesn't always tell the true story of how it truly went down. So if for example Kov wins a controversial decision over Ward, but it's clear Ward won and deserves a rematch, I would not rate Kov #1. Instead I'd rate Ward #1. The results don't always determine who was the better fighter that night it's happened time and again.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    I voted "unsure" but agree that a good argument can be made for the #1 p4p position right now. If Kovalev or Ward put on a masterclass, then I'd concede that ranking. It depends on the fighter's performance as well.
     
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  13. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The winner will have the best win of the decade and punch an instant ticket to the hof. But no he doesn't have to be p4p number 1. It depends on how the winner wins. If he wins solidy but neither he nor the other guy shows anything we haven't seen before I'm not annointing him number 1. If Kovalev ices Ward in the second round with his first serious punch I won't make him number 1, I'll probably only move Ward far down. If they bring out the best in each other, and the winner shows skill, ability, tactics, and will to win he hasn't yet shown... well let's see it happen first! Barrera rocketed up most p4p charts I think as much because of how he beat Hamed than that he merely won. I think Ward has already beaten more variety of styles than Kovalev so in my eyes if Ward wins he'll have the better chance of making a case that he's p4p number 1. Anyway, it's going to take a lot to convince me Loma, Rigo, and Gonzalez don't deserve to be considered the three best boxers in the world.
     
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  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    No, Ward hasn't done **** in decades.
     
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  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Wards has never been stopped. If he has been floored I can't recall. He has a Mayweather like shut down and counter type of defense. And he's fast and accurate. He might not have to take as many heavy shots as you think. Ward was the king @168, winning the super six. He has had no issues moving up to light heavy.

    Beterbiev has not been the same since his surgery, so right now, no I do not think Kovalev vs Beterbiev is a better match-up