The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by salsanchezfan, Jun 10, 2011.


  1. horst

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    Interesting. How so?
     
  2. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marquez edged Pacquiao by one point in their first fight, and lost their rematch, also by one point. Most have it the other way around.

    Norton outworked Young. I'll accept counter-arguments as equally valid, but it doesn't deserve the controversy it is often associated with. The same is true about Ellis-Patterson.

    Tyson would have TKO'd Louis.

    And lastly, this may not be an unpopular opinion so much as a recent realization, but really, not enough is made of Marciano, pound-for-pound. The man was a beast.
     
  3. Quick Cash

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    I don't think Roy Jones looked that good against Toney. He won it clearly, but it doesn't crack as one of the greatest masterclasses, as it is often touted to be.
     
  4. horst

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    It seems to be generally regarded that Marquez gave Pacquiao more problems than any fighter has given Mayweather.

    I had the 1st Pac-JMM fight to Pac by 115-112, and the second 114-114.

    I had the 1st JLC-Floyd fight to JLC by 115-113, and the second to Floyd by 117-113.


    Therefore, after 24 rounds Pac was 3 up on JMM, and Floyd was 2 up on JLC, so Pac had the greater margin of victory.
     
  5. horst

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    Marco Antonio Barrera beat Juan Manuel Marquez. The official scorecards were an absolute nonsense.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Or what about if George had to mix with a master technician and aggressive fighter like Audley Harrison ?
     
  7. Stevie G

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    The Holmes-Cooney bout was a one sided victory for Holmes. Nowhere near as good a fight as some hype it up to have been.
     
  8. horst

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    Harrison would use his anvil chin to rope a dope Big George the way he rope a doped David Haye, and then he'd Michael-Sprottify George with a monster Olympic gold shot late in the fight. :deal
     
  9. Stevie G

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    :lol:
     
  10. Quick Cash

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    Isn't that the consensus, though? Have you heard the opposite said numerous times on this board? For me, it was one-sided in that the victor was never in doubt, and the gulf in class was readily apparent, but Cooney bagged his fair share of rounds based on workrate alone.
     
  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Pacman-Hoya at 140-147 primes is a pickem fight. Oscar's dynamite left hook to the head and body would serve him well here, but he lacks the right hand operation and counterpunching skill to really stop Pacquiao in his tracks. It would be a bloody, bloody war... And I can't say for sure who would win, even with Hoya's intact physicality.
     
  12. Blood Green

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    The erratic behavior displayed by a lot of boxers who are aging or retired is often contributed to by brain damage. A boxer may not have Parkinson's and may speak well, but suicides, kidnappings, assaults, etc. committed by boxers are often from frontal lobe damage, affecting impulse control.
     
  13. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    agreed. unfortunately, you're starting to see this with a few former NFL players as well.
     
  14. Boggle

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    Old Foreman beats Prime Foreman w/monocle.
     
  15. horst

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    James Toney of the Barkley fight would stop/knock out the Calzaghe of the Lacy/Kessler fights. Toney had excellent power there, and his right hand counters would be bouncing off Calzaghe's stationary dome all night coming in, until the dam bursts at some point late in the fight.