Is there any chance that David Haye will try outpoint Wlad?

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  1. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It seems that everyone is certain that Haye's gameplan will be to knock out klitschko and presumably do it early.

    However is there any chance he will try potshot his way to victory?

    I dont see Haye knocking Wlad out but i do think he can win a few rounds against klitschko by taking a calmer approach as he did against valuev.

    What are your thoughts?
     
  2. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    He could try but he'd get his head jabbed clean off. He has to go for the KO remember they are fighting in Germany.
     
  3. JMP

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    I expect him to try to use movement to limit Wladimir's ability to get off with his jab, while jumping in with the occasional pot-shot or explosion. Kind of like how he fought Valuev, except Klitschko has better timing, skills, speed, and power than SNV, which means Haye will probably find himself looking up at the lights sooner than later.
     
  4. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He got the decision with SNV though
     
  5. shimmy

    shimmy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad isn't no Valuev, Valuev's legs were shot to **** completely. This is totally different. His only chance is to engage and catch Wlad early in my opinion or he will tire quickly and be finished. If I was him I would swing for the fences at the bell and hope to land something fast like Sanders did.
     
  6. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe Haye thinks he has the speed and timing of Wlad.
     
  7. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly.
    Overall Wladimir is the far superior boxer so I think Haye would get outpointed if the fight was in germany, uk or in vegas, simply because Wladimir is too much for him.

    For some reason I see this being a boring fight with a late ko or a possible decision.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is absolutely no way Haye outpoints Wlad unless (!) he gets 2-3 knocksdowns counted as 10-8 rounds.
     
  9. Mrtibbs

    Mrtibbs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just listening to ex boxers on ringside made me think maybe he will at least test the waters trying to outbox vlad. They were also right in saying everyone thinks he can only win via KO but he does actually have the speed and relexes to possibly outpoint vlad.

    It would be foolish for us to think its not at least a possibility. Let's think back to the groves de gale fight where probably 99 percent of us including me_
    were wrong.
     
  10. Jared

    Jared Active Member Full Member

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    I think that'll be his plan to be honest.
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I strongly disagree. Wlad's punch output is about 200-400% higher than Haye's. Bar major knockdowns, it's virtually impossible for Haye to win this on the scorecards.

    Ever since he came to HW Haye boxes in short spurts, his output is way too low. It may be enough to stun and knock down/stop Wlad but not enough to put up a technical 12 round boxing clinic.
     
  12. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    I dont think He'll try to outpoint him but it might happen if he doesnt get the KO
     
  13. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That may very well be the case, unfortunately for him. They might really think if he could do it against a bigger Valuev, he could also beat Wlad by being cautious throwing a couple of punches every round. This strategy is a guaranteed loss.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I think there's a very good chance he will try to put on a similar performance to the Valuev fight, although he'll always be looking to knock him out while doing it. If he fights that way, I think it's a mistake but if he fought that way against SNV, I'm sure it's more than possible he tries it with Wlad.
     
  15. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't remember Haye outboxing anybody.He certainly doesn't have the tools to outbox Wlad.
    He should fight to his strengths,which are speed and power.
    Having said all of this,i think he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't,if he tries to outbox Wlad he'll get outboxed and eventually opened up for a big right.If he tries to rush Wlad at the start,he may walk onto something.