Tyson v Jones ... products of weak Eras and or divisions

Jones Jr? ... his biggest win was and will always be Hopkins[/quote]

Man, you got to stop.

Holmes is the same man that went on 4 years later to beat A PRIME MERCER who is Wlad's best win, ya dick suckin *****.

And Jones Jr best win is JAMES TONEY.

Man, you don't know **** about boxing.

 

Roy Jones has some good competition missing from his record. Just because his record is fairly weak doesn't mean the era was.

 

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Jones was picking his opposition very carefully. Same with Tyson actually. Tyson was one of the most protected and over hyped fighters of all time. Those fighters that did not lose to him during the pre-fight conferences either gave him hell or beat him. He was a very talented man, with powerful punches and quality defense, but his heart was his biggest weakness. Holyfield's grit and determination, transplanted to Tyson, would have made the greatest heavyweight of all time.

 

Absolutely nothing you've said show that these fighters were inferior to a declining Mercer? All you've done is show that you can spout irrelevant crap while periodically using big letters to further highlight the worthlessness of your posts. The fact that you've highlight a sparring session without ironic context shows how utterly stupid you are.

I laugh at people like you that are so goddamn dumb and yet, bless ya, actually believe they are boxing fans. It might be beneficial to take your dumb butt away from the forum and watch a few fights. Just a thought....

 

Anyone that says Tyson's era was good is a total ******. His era was good in the mid 90's when he was getting destroyed by everyone. The late 80's was the worst era of HW boxing ever. Tyson never beat anyone that wasn't a bum.

 

If Tysons era was weak , what does that say about this ****-filled era.

 

Yeah, and he did that with a broken right hand.

 

I disagree, I believe Tszyu never reached his true potential because of it

 

Tyson was champion Nov. '86 - Feb. '90 in a weak heavyweight division.

Roy Jones Jr.'s win against James Toney in 1994 was one of the biggest wins in boxing in the whole decade. But after that he fought mostly complete soft touches.

 

Tyson was the only person to KO Holmes and Spinks who were both very good fighters. Maybe not as good as Ali because he could give up in close fights but he was robbed of his peak.
Roy Jones beat a few greats and is possibly the best light heavy ever imo.
Oscar and Tito were not all time great middle weights, Hopkins has never beaten an ATG.
Calzaghe beat Eubank and Hopkins who are ATG's and was avoided by Collins as well.

 

Tucker, Pinklon and Biggs were quality boxers back then and Tubbs had very fast hands for a HW. Holmes was still useful.

I think they'd all beat the Klitschko's at their best.

 

There were phenomenal fighters around with Jones like Eubank, McClellan, Benn and Nunn.

I think he avoided McClellan in '93-'94, and Eubank and Nunn in '97-'98.

 

Tyson has two good wins, old Holmes and old Spinks. The simple fact of the matter is that the best fighters in Tyson's age bracket were Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield and Bowe. Tyson fought 2 of those over 3 fights and got destroyed every time. These are the real honest facts about Tyson.

 

Well yes they're the real honest facts, but visually the real truth is that Tyson was clearly nothing like the same fighter that destroyed Pinklon, Biggs, Tubbs and Holmes and out-jabbed peak Tucker and Smith.

Even a 60% Tyson was able to destroy Bruno, Williams, Tillman and Ruddock and be one second away from beating tall talented Douglas.

 

This era is much better than the late 80s.

The late 80s had Tyson, then nothing, then a semi retired LHW Spinks, retired Holmes, Tony Tucker, and a couple of also champions like Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tubbs.

Today we have two dominant champions in Wlad and Vitali, a dangerous semi-active puncher in David Haye and the solid Tomasz Adamek. After them there is still some decent guys like Robert Helenius, Alexander Povetkin, Odlanier Solis, Chris Arreola and Eddie Chambers. Then there is some unproven talent in Boytsov, Perez and Ortiz. The HW division is pretty deep atm.