Is Haye the best Fighter Wladimir has fought?

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  1. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IMO, no..
     
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    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why?

    Based on an excellent Cruiserweight record and decent heavyweight competition (compared with Wlads), I don't see anyone on Wlads record who is better.
     
  3. DrMo

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    On talent yes on HW resume no
     
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    YES. beyond the shadow of a doubt
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    No definitley not but its our perceptions and our high holding of Haye that makes us think he is any better than recent opponents even if he isnt

    even if he is the toughest guy he faced since winning the belt he is not the best opponent

    the guys that beat Wlad are not Wlad's best opponents

    Haye is not the best opponent just perceived as a huge threat
     
  6. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Outside of power, Byrd was better in every way than David.
    Ibragimov was just as good.
    Peter had more power and tougher.
    Brewster was the same as Peter.
    And so many more.......
     
  7. Daruf

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    Chagaev is better than Haye imho, hence he ducked him.
    Chagaev also beat Valuev MUCH more convincingly.

    Which is why i always find it laugheble when people say Haye fought such a smart fight.
    Chagaev is the same size and he didnt have to run around like a chicken throwing 12 punches per round.
     
  8. SportsLeader

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    Hence who ducked who?
     
  9. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What big names are on David's Cruiserweight resume? I can't find any! No Cunningham, Adamek, Bell, even Huck or Alexeev........
     
  10. Daruf

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    Haye ducked Chagaev.
     
  11. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He clearly did..:-(
     
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    Byrd is the best boxer but Haye has more power. And I like his style aginst Wlad. But Hayes chin may be too weak.

    Byrd #1 and Haye #2.

    Peter was always overrated.
     
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    That is just like saying Wlad ducked Chisora.

    Absolutely ludicrous.
     
  14. Neverchair

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    Are you having a laugh?

    Was being considered the undisputed Cruiserweight champ not good enough for you?

    That in itself is a bigger achievement than any made by Wlads opponents.

    You didn't answer my question. Why isn't Haye the best fighter Wlad has fought?
     
  15. KO KIDD

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    I think so, he had a mandatory which most guys are stripped for not fighting

    Chag couldnt get cleared for England but Its a world title bout meaning the world not England

    WBA could have over ruled the local commission or they could have held the bout in a place that would let it go

    but as much as i feel sorry for Chag we get the fight we really want unless Haye hurts his back or something