Floyd: Im not going to be moving vs ortiz

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    :lol: What? Nonexistent? Do you know what footwork is? Its not just bouncing around the ring. You dont walk Mosley and Marquez down without footwork. :patsch

    And now you're claiming olympic blood testing hurts your stamina. :rofl
     
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  3. Uncle Rico

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    He doesn't need to move to beat Ortiz.

    He's got more than enough in him to stand his ground and pot-shot him. By the rounds 7/8, Ortiz will start becoming hesitant whilst coming in. The counters and spoiling on the inside will lower his punch output tremendously. He's going to recieve a first-class schooling in the art of boxing, belee dat!
     
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    Floyd's legs are still quick. Watch those fights closer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4&feature=player_detailpage#t=152s
     
  5. elchivito

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    Floyd is the master of adaptation if something not working he'll go to plan B and so forth. Its preventing him to fight off his backfoot that makes him more susceptible. That he went after Shane, Judah, Oscar, etc he only does that when they are gassed. Watch the fights closely. Of course hes still hard to beat when hes not fighting off his backfoot because hes fast, but making him come forward and opening up his offense he is being less defensive. Victor is naturally right handed fighting as a southpaw I wouldnt be surprised if Victor nailed Floyd clean with a right hook. Judah did it, Shane did it, Ortiz ??? I dont believe Floyd on that statement that would be foolish to go toe to toe with Victor. I think Floyd will change his mind real quick and just box him for a UD. Win win for both.
     
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    Floyd jr is on the decline. He is not as agile as he was at 130-140. He was a boxer-puncher to pure counterpunching suggests. He is suspectible to be outworked if his defense fails. Back when he was at 130 he was flying around the ring, hitting you at will and koing guys. He haven't done that sh*t in years.
     
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    There is a lot of boxing IQ in Floyd so if he changes his style he would still prevail but he is the boxing master.
     
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    This is for those who say giving blood for tests does not affect athletic performance.

    Blood tests for drug use involve collecting about 10-20 cc of blood (1-2 vials). 4 of these drug tests will equal 50-100 cc, or about 10% - 20% of a pint of blood given in donations (450cc).


    1. How do periodic reductions in hemoglobin affect an athlete's ability to train?

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    Blood is a complicated tissue with many different roles. When you donate blood, you give up a pint of fluid containing mostly water along with various proteins and cells in solution. During high-intensity endurance activities however, it is hemoglobin, found within our red blood cells, that is most important.

    Hemoglobin delivers oxygen to our tissues, and when we exercise our muscles require increased amounts of oxygen. If we lack sufficient hemoglobin, anaerobic, or without oxygen, metabolism will ensue (producing lactic acid) at even seemingly moderate levels of intensity.

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    , (which is why you may not donate more often than every two months). What then are the lasting effects of this red blood cell loss?


    Assuming that your cardiac output (the amount of blood pumped by the heart) remains constant, a drop in hemoglobin concentration associated with donating blood will reduce your oxygen delivery to working muscles by 10 percent. Still, when you are at rest, or even during moderate levels of exercise, oxygen delivery, even at this decreased capacity, far outpaces demand.

    However, once you reach a heart rate that is around 5 to 10 percent below your usual anaerobic threshold, your body's demand for oxygen will outpace its supply. For example, if your metabolism typically becomes anaerobic at a heart rate of 170, then after donating blood you will become anaerobic at a heart rate of between 157 and 164 beats per minute. This value will fluctuate because your hemoglobin level will be rising slowly each day, thus the most significant effect will be felt in the first few days after donating.

    2. Donating Blood - What Active People Need to Know

    He notes that many variables make it difficult to predict how much or how long donating a pint of blood will affect athletic performance. However, he notes that recovery after blood donation is fairly fast. Eichner writes: "In my anecdotal experience,
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    5 blood tests equal 100cc, or 23% of 450cc (1 pint, the amount given in blood donations). 23% of 4 weeks is roughly 6 days of compromised stamina scattered thoughout training camp.
     
  10. ImElvis666

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    You're very childish, it must be said. Are you twelve or something?

    I don't even like Floyd, I just accept reality.
     
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHdOxt-hmHs&feature=related[/ame]

    I haven't seen this fight since. But I remember saying if JITTERY Shane Mosley fought Pac like this he would get KTFO.But i read *****S were saying that Pac has no chance against Mosley, any version of Mosley. Watch Mosley and be honest the guy is Jittery as a mofo.
     
  12. bballchump11

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    that's fair enough :good
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    So donating a pint of blood, which means all at once and an athlete returns to peak performance within1= 2 weeks.


    During blood testing, not nearly that much is taken. So the recovery time would be next to nothing.

    So if an athlete gives 100cc of blood. And it takes 1-2 weeks to recover from 450 cc of blood taken....


    That means an athlete would return to peak 1.6-3 days. Thats with 4 tests theoritically being administered all at the same time. :lol: 20cc and its just a matter of hours. :lol:

    I know you are trying to spin something here. Im just not sure what?
     
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    you dont know what boxing is.....
     
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    blacktopbully Boxing Addict banned

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    whose floyd mayweather