Monzon vs. McCallum

Calzaghe beats Monzon at 168 for sure in the battle of the 2 men who fought old men and bums

 

:rofl..Really PP,..you're otherwise a very good, knowledgeable poster..but this is

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...it's enough to say "to each his own" and "everyone's entitled to his opinion" in your defense.

 

What a Rocks avatar is Leonard Nimoy?? Nothing wrong with that. "Ahh, Mr. Scott, I understand you're having difficulty with the warp drive"

 

You have a point, but in this forum it's preferable to prove those people wrong, or atleast present a differing opinion, with good analysis on a fighter's strengths and weaknesses.

Good as McCallum was, he wasn't the most talented when it comes to his footspeed and defensive reactions. The thing that makes this a more even match-up though is that Monzon himself was not the fastest of middleweights. This allows McCallum to use his techniques to full extent, without being outdone by laser right hands that he could not see coming before reacting, making him more hesitant. Monzon probably does drive home some big right hands though, as being open for that punch was a definite weakness of McCallum's throughout his career.

 

True but those fighters were already discussed so often that that shouldn´t be necessary.

In many ways they are evenly matched. McCallum might even have the slightly better technique while Monzon packs more power. Like I wrote before Monzon will win this because he will dictate pace and range. I don´t know many fighters who were as good as him in that and McCallum ain´t one of them.

 

I am for that, as long as the term 'Great' is banned too. As so many people abuse it, with fighters that were merely excellent, to those who were basically good...

 

Where would Duke McKenzie come into it?

 

so you've written off the seventies and eighties as a weak era for middleweights. that's a long time...

 

Middleweight was never genuinely weak until the mid-90s and onward imo

 

Wait a sec here! I haven't said that. Against Hearns, I'd probably make him a favourite, just as Steward does. Over 15 at least. Over 12... Very hard to say. Tough, tough fight at any distance. Against Monzon I won't make a pick, since I've seen too little of him. Against Leonard... Very, very hard to say since we saw little of prime Leonard at 154 and nothing of him above that. So I won't make a pick here either.

I think McCallum at his best at MW beats Leonard at his best at MW, but I don't rate that Leonard nearly as highly as I rate the WW version.

 

I don't argue this. I was just giving my 2 cents on McCallum as a crowding fighter in general.

 

You're so predictable it's ridicolous. I won't speak for Teeto, but when he had the "respectable trolls" as the most annoying feature on this forum you're one of the posters I instantly thought of.

You bring so much in form of opinion and so little when it comes to original, informed analysis. PowerPuncher is such a superior poster to you that it's beyond funny. And still you have all this attitude. High nose attitude from mediocre people is one of the most annoying things in the world, and it goes for this forum as well.

 

Ouch!

 

I'd assume McCallum would have to attempt to rely on his skills closer up, perhaps with a good body attack and and his powerpunching arsenal. Briscoe may not have been a good equivalent, but I only used it as a general strategy comparison.I see a smaller man trying to box Monzon at middle range as being an exercise in futility given the man's reach and honed straight punching. The best ways to deal with a guy like Carlos IMO is either to outspeed and outwork him on the outside or to crowd and smother him up close and get him tangled. As this pertains to McCallum his best chance would be to apply fast pressure with a good strong body attack. I don't see him playing the slickster to great success, so there it is.

And itry, wide decisions don't necessarily reflect a prediction of a beatdown or an ass whipping; it could simply mean that a man won the majority of rounds, and I think i'd expect Monzon to.

 

Same height and reach bro