How good is V.K.'s trainer---Fritz Sdunek?

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fellas,

    Who else feels trainer Fritz Sdunek is a good / quality trainer? I sure do..:deal

    I've heard mixed reviews about him, but he seems to have a winning chemisrty with Vitali Klitschko...
    :bbb

    I have no idea who else he's trained or led to success, but Sdunek seems capable to me...
    :yep

    Does anyone really feel V.K. would settle for a lame duck in his camp?:-(

    Okay, perhaps Fritz Sdunek lacks Manny Stewards or Freddie Roach's resume, but the resume doesn't truly prove whether you are good or a bad trainer... Lotsa' so-called trainers have nice resume's who I feel are simply over paid cheerleaders...
    :shock::think

    C'mon back with some feedback....:good

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  2. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Jisi hates him more than the devil himself.

    I think he is a good and foremost very likable coach. :)
     
  3. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Alexander Alexejew
    Károly Balzsay
    Denis Boizow
    Alexander Dimitrenko
    Zsolt Erdei
    Khoren Gevor
    Juan Carlos Gómez
    Artur Grigorian
    Wladimir Klitschko
    István Kovács
    Michael Löwe
    Dariusz Michalczewski
    Ralf Rocchigiani
    Sinan Şamil Sam
    Mario Veit
    Sebastian Zbik
    Andreas Zülow
    Vitali Klitschko
    Felix Sturm


    His resume is not that bad actually
     
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  4. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sdunek is a top trainer. I think Wladimir will go back to him after the Haye fight.
    He's back in Wladimir's camp now...
     
  5. warman

    warman Guest


    Is it Teddy Atlas you are talking about here?:yep:yep:deal
     
  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Steward has a fine chemistry with Wladimir, or so it seems... The pairing started off rocky with a KO loss to Lamon Brewster in 2004, but since that loss, the team has been winning and winning big.... Why screw with the formula?

    I agree Fritz Sdunek has a fine looking resume...

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  7. MRBILL

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    I was thinking more of Don King's boy---Richie Giachetti..... I always thought Giachetti was too basic in hollering his basic instructions... "Jab him and come back with the right hand hand, goddammit."
    :rofl:bbb:deal

    MR.BILL:hat
     
  8. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    He is overrated in my opinion. If a fight doesn't go the way it's supposed to go, he is clueless. See Wlad-Sanders, Sturm-Macklin.
    Vitali would be a great fighter, regardless if Sdunek trained him or not.
     
  9. MRBILL

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    I think both brothers are ATG top-20 champions at heavyweight, but I prefer older man Vitali cuz of his toughness and mean presence that seems to freeze an opponent.... Wladimir is also great, but he has to work harder to obtain great results....

    V.K. # 7

    Wladdy # 13

    MR.BILL:bbb:deal:hat
     
  10. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One of the best trainers in the world, his track record speaks for himself. Very good strategist, excellent mental coach, favors the German effective yet unattractive fighting style based on defense and jabbing.

    I believe Steward said he didn't teach Wlad a thing, he learned everything from Sdunek and at the ams, Manny just fine-tuned based on obvious disadvantages. Ironically Wlad was far more exciting under Fritz, but ultimately his chin didn't hold up for that aggressive style of fighting.

    He helped more than a dozen fighters to a world title but unfortunately he had to retire a few years back due to health issues. He now trains just a few, Vitali, Sturm and Erdei I believe.
     
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  11. MRBILL

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    I think Sdunek had Wlad K. more aggressive and also more so reckless..... Wlad seemed to own a better killer desire with Sdunek, than that with the overly protective Steward who has Wlad K. winning.... Yes, again, Steward has Wlad on a huge winning streak but, we the fans, hear the boo's coming from the nose bleed section.... Anyway, boo's or not, Wlad Klit is winning these days / nights.... WE SHALL SEE COME SAT.....

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  12. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    A decent trainer all in all, but not one of the best. He can't make a good fighter great (push him to the next level) - like a Freddie Roach or an Emmanuel Steward can do. His best fighters were already tremendously talented for this sport before they started working with Sdunek, and would be greats regardless of their coach.
     
  13. FAT_TONEY

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    Saying Wlad didn't improve under Steward is nonsense. He improved a lot. Just look at the footwork. Steward taught Wlad to fight like a tall man - just as he taught Lewis. Wlad fought a more exciting style under Sdunek but without Steward we would not talk about Wlad these days as he would have been knocked out a couple times more and would have retired. Wlad was already good under Sdunek because of his talent, but he had no idea about fighting tall (like he should, being a tall HW).
     
  14. BigBone

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    Wlad wasn't reckless with Sdunek at all, the punch that knocked him down was Sanders' southpaw money shot that hurt Vitali (and Rahman) too, only they recovered and adapted where Wlad couldn't. Heavyweights need to be ready to take a punch and go 12 no matter who trains them, and at the time of those losses there weren't indications that Wlad has problems with either. Sdunek is not to blame.

    Then of course Wlad went to Steward and ... gassed and got knocked out by Brewster, so was he reckless there too? What Manny did was actually taking away instead of adding, very limited use of the right hand only behind the jab, no lead right, no left hook or aggressive combinations, plus improved his footwork and psychological training. Credit there because it works. But only compared to this Wlad you can call the young one 'reckless', but then again, he really wasn't. If he were, he would've been knocked out vs. Mercer, Schulz, McCline whoever... Sanders just sold his money punch just as well as Haye might, although it will be a lot harder considering Wlad is far more accustomed to fighting righties.
     
  15. MRBILL

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    Agreed about Steward........... He has Wlad on track and winning since 2005.......... Its selfish to ask for more........

    MR.BILL