Haye (213 lbs) Clearly Will Be Using the "Valuev Gameplan Part II"

Unfortunately for Haye, with Wlad Valuev plan won't work for too long. Left hook at the ropes will end it.

 

I'd have preferred Haye to come in about 220 and go for the kill early. I really think that would've been his best chance to win. Wladimir Klitschko is ****ing light years ahead of Nikolay Valuev, Haye just will not be able to stay outside and pot-shot Wlad, he'll get bludgeoned.

 

I totally agree with you Popkins. :good

 

210, 212, 222 or at whatever weight, David will run, potshot, run and repeat. David will not assume the risk to produce several viable KO opportunites and he will be in a mode of trying to keep WK's punch output to a minimum. He stands a 10% chance of getting lucky in Rounds 1 and 2, and a 5% or less chance thereafter.

The real question is whether WK will force the action and pursue David or whether he sits behind the jab in his comfort zone. I predict the latter and a one-sided UD.

 

haye fan my arse....haye blasts this phoney away in 3 rounds.looks great and his going to fight great and expose wladdy for what he is

 

"itsa huge *****" it's your dream right? Same dream Haye has. Unfortunately it won't happen for both of you.

 

There was proof it was broken, but not at all that it happened in the second round.
If you watch the fight, there wasn't even a hard punch from David and he never reacted as if he hurt himself in that round.
I won't be surprised it actually happened in r12 with the only good puch he landed on Valuev's chin the whole night, or maybe not even in the ring.
It was a louzy excuse, nothing more nothing less.

And what happened in the Harrison bout? Did he break his hand before the fight even started?

 

You know what, it's normal to immediately rule out the "all-out rush" as a rash, stupid, uncultured approach. And 99% of the time, it is.



This time, it isn't. It wasn't when Hagler fought Hearns and knew he wouldn't be able to outbox Tommy from the outside, and it isn't now when Haye fights Klitschko. Now and then, the all-out rush for the jugular is the smartest approach, and I really believe this is one of those times.

David Haye is not capable of beating Wladimir from the outside. But he is capable of blasting him out early.

IMHO.

 

I think Wlad will do as you say. However, unlike Valuev he will cut the ring off but not chase. Wlad will stay out of range as he stalks Haye keeping the fight at his preferred distance. He will eventually force Haye into his punching zone when Haye starts to slow a hair or get careless. We've seen Haye get quite sloppy against Barrett and Ruiz. I can't see Haye lasting the distance.

 

Everyone needs to stop buying into the hype

All the t-shirts, Faceoff, ambulance, press confrence, Pizza face, 50th knockout, ambulance doesn't mean a thing.

Both guys will fight how they normally fight, gun shy until the opportunity presents itself

And forget about the weigh in, doesn't matter what weight they come in at, both are tremendous athletes and will come into the ring with plenty of road work, pad work and strength training. Both will come in in the best of shape

Klitchko (unfortunatly, because I'm a Brit I want our fighters to do well) will win the fight

In order to beat a good big man you need a great small man

Haye, unfortunatly is just a good small man

He has proven nothing in the heavyweight division since coming in, and beat the worst heavyweight champion in hostory on a MD

If he struggles with a big lump of poo, how is he gonna cope with a big lump of chizzled muscle?

Haye also CAN NOT TAKE A SHOT and this will come to fruition when Klitchko lands, and he will land at some point

Sorry David, but after this fight you will be ridiculed by everyone across the pond and will have to hang your head in shame for not showing any respect

Still, you've earn a truck load of money from all your pre-fight antics so best of luck to you!

 

You are definitely right and this is the only plan that might work. It has to work very early in order to succeed because once Wlad does a few clinches and drains energy from Haye it is all over.

 

I don't agree. Staying on the outside leaves Haye with no chance to win. The risk of losing is so massive it's almost a total eclipse. At least the other way, Haye is a live dog IMO. The risk of losing is considerably less.