The concept of the "lineal championship"

It's an interesting concept, it certainly lends to the history of the sport, but it's not terribly meaningful.

Michael Spinks was the lineal champ, right? Had he never faced Tyson, would that have meant he was better? Tyson was the true champ, if not the lineal one, before he fought Spinks -- he was the best fighter in the division and he had a much better resume at that weight.

In fact, the only reason Spinks and Tyson fought was because some argued that Spinks was the true champ. The public wasn't clamoring for the showdown, although interest was certainly built through the promotion. It was just the last piece of unfinished business for Tyson at that time to clean up the division.

 

Ring Magazine has kept a decent eye on the lineal championship. Wlad is the lineal champ right now and the only true,legit World Champ. Haye is A world champion,Vitali is A world champion but Wlad is THE world champion. Lennox was the lineal champ but he retired so Vitali became the lineal champ when he beat Corrie Sanders and he retired and lineal title was vacated until Wlad picked it up with his win over Ibragimov.
On a side note,I won the lineal title when I KO'd Wlad in one round. He got it back though.

 

That may be true but Vitali is no longer retired and only an idiot would ignore his claim.

Fact is, Wladimir CANNOT lay claim to the legitimate HW title until he beats Vitali - or - unless Vitali were to lose and Wlad beats the guy who beat Vitali.

You're a fan of what the media thinks, correct?

Well, what's Max Kellerman's view of the HW title situation?

 

Bull****.

I'd really like to know; exactly what qualifies Wlad/Ibragimov as a contest for the linear title?

Please explain...

 

Wow.

I thought the posters in the "Classic" forum were supposed to have a degree of boxing knowledge.

Spinks was the Man before he lost to Tyson. This isn't even up for debate.

Didn't Spinks get the W over Holmes? You gotta beat the Man in order to BE the Man.

Spinks was the Man @ HW after getting the decision over Holmes. Period, end of story.

 

Yeah, Spinks got the decision in that one too.

Point being, Spinks was the Man until Tyson beat him in the ring.

 

Only an idiot would consider that statement as relevant to the state of the HW title...

 

Nay Sayer is an illogical moron, Lufcrazy. I doubt he even watches boxing, his sole purpose is to stir **** up and race bait. Fine and dandy in general forum, but he needs to say the hell away from Classic.

He also tried to argue that Foreman never lost recognition as "The Man" during his self imposed exile from revelancy.

So pretty much Foreman/Grimsely was for the Real Title in the eyes of the public and those who matter like himself.

Whlie Holyfield vs. Tyson was for worthless paper titles, nobody recognized them as the two top Heavyweights while Big George was lining them up in Chiba.

 

What is it with you. Can you not comprhend simple logic.

Here are the FACTS.

Spinks got the decision in the rematch with Holmes, therefore Spinks was the Man @ HW.

Jones may have been a better fighter but DM was the Man @ 175lbs based on his win over Virgil Hill.

What's so difficult about this to understand?

 

Foreman/Grimsely in Chiba for the REAL HW title...FACT.

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