Regardless of tomorrow's outcome

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  1. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nothing personal, but I can name 10 higher than Wlad in less than a minute.

    Wlad is a Hall of Famer, not an All-time Great. Like Scottie Pippen is a Hall of Famer but Michael Jordan is an All-time Great. Gary Carter is a Hall of Famer but Willie Mays is an All-time Great. Need I continue?
     
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  2. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Should have said "undisputed" A mistake which I have admitted to and corrected.
     
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  3. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Wlad IS an ATG HW..
     
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  4. Check_Hook

    Check_Hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who cares if the winner does not have every single belt, 5 out of 6 for god sake.

    Every ones knows Wlad is the true Heavyweight champion of the world, no matter what these shitty alphabet belts say. So the winner of this fight is no doubt THE man, undisputed can get to ****
     
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  5. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Yep I know, that's what I was aiming at bro
     
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  6. Think

    Think The Sport Of Kings Full Member

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    A few more good wins over who?

    There aren't many people left, most are up-and-comers or just over the hill.
     
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  7. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    Stop the hate!!!
     
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  8. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We know he's better than Vitali?
     
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  9. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    if wlad isn't atg,then neither is dempsey,louis,marciano or tyson.wlad has fought what was in front of him just as those hws did

    can't do anything other than that
     
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  10. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :roll: It's not hard to name 10 better HWs because Wlad is in about the 12-15 spot on the HW ATG list. He's still an ATG though, you're a hater if you think otherwise.
     
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  11. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    He can build a time machine, travel back to the 80s, and KO Tyson, to the 70s and KO Ali Frazier Foreman and Holmes, to the 40s and KO Marciano and Loius, to the 30s and KOs Dempsey etc etc etc.

    I guess it's just how bad he wants it.
     
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  12. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm a realist with high standards. You're from Chicago, so you should understand this:

    Scottie Pippen is a Hall of Famer. Michael Jordan is an All-Time Great. 20+ years from now people will still talk about and revere MJ, not many will mention Pippen.

    Wlad is a Hall of Famer. Ali is an ATG. 20+ years from now people will still revere and discuss Ali. Wlad will be a footnote in the history of boxing.

    There's nothing wrong with being a Hall of Famer. It is obvioulsy and incredible accomplishment. But don't lower the standards for All-Time Great. They transcend geography, era, race, weight class, etc.
     
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  13. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    spot on. no more needs to be said... the winner will be the MAN.
     
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  14. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad is about 15-12 on the ATG HW list like I said. Pippen isn't that high on the ATG list in basketball. That's a huge flaw in your analogy. It's more like comparing Jordan to Shaq or Karl Malone or something. Both are ATGs, one is the very best but the other is still an ATG. Someone like David Tua will be a footnote (i.e. a contender but never champion), Wlad has had a long and successful reign.
     
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  15. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad is no higher in ATG rankings in boxing than Pippen is in basketball. We could both name 50+ better than either of them.

    If you want to qualify him by weight class rather than the sport as a whole, that diminishes the status of ATG. 20 ATG's per weight class times 8 weight classes = 160. That bar is far too low for me.
     
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