The "Haye is to small and not a natural HW" excuse that is starting to gather pace

you are creating fantasy match ups, im providing facts.

 

he's 6'3, 210 pounds. that's a natural heavy in any era. 80s and back, it's even considered big. Big George was 6'3, 215 in his prime. Ali was 6'3, 200 in his prime. Haye is a natural HW no doubt

 

Haye has never looked tall, against anyone

 

Except guys that were smaller than him.

 

Forget the fantasy match up then. Haye when compared to the greatest heavyweights of all time is massively bigger than the vast majority of them and is roughly the same size as 'enormous monster' ATG's like Ali and Foreman. There is a fact for you.

 

Fraizer was fighitng around 210 end of thread

 

Even then, he never really looks tall. Muhammad Ali for instance who was billed as 6'3, always looked tall in the ring, when he did interviews, pressers and had public training he was always head and shoulders above everyone in the room, even when he fought 6'5 guys he didn't look small, it was just obvious they were even taller.

Haye doesn't have that. It could be because of his build, but then Foreman who was heavier always looked big.

He just seems small to me. I suppose everyone else feels that way too.

 

Unless he's much taller than them.

 

you are right on this one, if haye loses its not because hes too small.. this "too small", "not real heavyweight" is getting ridiculous.. by that logic wlad nor vitaly should never have a chance against valuev who would overtower him and outweight him massively

 

Only reason why Haye could lose is the size difference. Haye is clearly the superior fighter but I fear that Wlad is just too big..

 

He and Fragomeni looked about the same size, really. :blood

 

Yas, Haye is bigger than most of the past ATG's who the haters said would knockout both Klitschkos on the same night.:think

 

Haye is not saying he is too small.

It's other people saying it, including Vitali and Mike Tyson.

As long as Haye isn't saying it, what's your problem?

 

WTF?!

Haye was only 1 inch smaller than SNV FFS!!

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People have short memories, or are just a little to yong to have seen how good smaller heavyweights have done in the past. the last 30 years there have been 3 real good heavyweights closer to Hayes size then Wladimirs, Holmes, Holyfield, Tyson. The last 15 years is actually an abnormality, there have been very few heavyweights in history Wladimir's size that have been dominent when in their prime.