Wlad beat Haye. Sure. Was to be expected. Anybody believing Haye a single word after the Harrison-fiasco can't be helped anyway. But to me, Haye took away Klitschko's jab, sometimes called "one of the best in heavyweight history". Bollocks. As soon as a little movement came into play and Wlad couldn't just unload on befuddled targets covering up, his jab looked weak. So you have a guy who's mortally scared of getting hit, who relies on his unreliable jab, who doesn't know how to throw a bodypunch if his life depended on it. A guy who "dominates" this great era with the 1-2, the most basic of all combinations. And he's supposed to be an ATG?! Get outta here...
you're a hater and you put Wladimir and ATG in the same sentence>>>>>>>>>he made it. noone can deny it now, he will go down in history as an ATG.
what are you talking about, wlad won those rounds based on his jab and his defense, he boxed very well and won, if he had lost his legacy would be ruined yet now people discredit him even with a clear victory, to me he is definitely near atg status, you can make a case for the guy, since there is now nobody left who has a chance of beating him he can dominate and seal his status.
The other fighters,Tyson,Ali,Frazier all look perfect now,because they don't fight anymore,and theirs nothing new to criticize.Thats taking the easy way out.Did you watch Foreman Frazier.Frazier all time great?
If he took away the jab, Haye would have won. It's the jab that kept Haye confused, every time Klitschko throws the jab it resets Haye's plan and you can see that easily during the fight if you actually know what's going on. You're just a drunken idiot who can't handle the fact that Wladimir won this fight.
Not so sure...an ATG would have put Haye to sleep in the 9th, 10th or 11th. Not to mention that he still has Povetkin and Adamek to fight. If he's going to keep decisioning wounded prey like this then he's going to need to care of business with the guys mentioned above to be in the top 10 ATG HW conversation.
I agree, Haye did take away Wlad's jab. Trouble is, all he gave back was jab + overhand right. Again and again. Where was the jab, overhand right, left hook? or overhand right, left uppercut? Or a single 3+ punch combo? Look at how Joe Louis used to fight, then look at this fight. Haye just didn't have the skills and all round ability to trouble Wlad. He was exposed as a limited fighter. Decent defense. but just lacked the offense to trouble Wlad. Very 2 dimensional and disappointing, especially last 3 rounds.
I was 7 years old the first time Ali and Liston fought, so I literally grew up watching one of the most exciting heavyweight eras in boxing history. That makes it very hard for me to take an interest in any of todays heavies.
Why can't you pick someone who actually fights,than someone who retired 30 years ago to beat Wlad.Can't be done can it?.Its easy to say someone from another era could beat him.They never have to prove anything and you never look bad.A modern day flyweight could of handled himself better than Frazier in that Foreman fight.