The Siver-Wiman decision was disgusting, and sadly Wanderlei should be cut now.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by horst, Jul 2, 2011.


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  1. horst

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    I had Siver-Wiman to Wiman by 30-27, Matt Wiman definitely won rounds 2 and 3, by a clear margin, and I think he did enough to edge the 1st as well, though I wouldn't argue if anyone had the first 10-10, or even 10-9 Siver though that'd be a bit of a stretch IMO.

    Bona fide robbery, which is especially sad because if Wiman had got the decision he deserved he'd have been right up there with Guillard and Guida as the next in line for the Edgar-Maynard III winner. Just goes to show how **** judging can **** up peoples' careers, as even if Dana agreed that Wiman won, Matt has still lost ground and momentum on Guillard and Guida now. **** situation.


    And Wandy needs to be cut. Rocked by a glancing blow from Chris Leben, then finished off within seconds. We all saw what a genuine middleweight contender (Stann) did to Leben. Wanderlei can never regain the old days, he's shot. This fight reminded me of Liddell vs Franklin, where it was obvious that the great fighter's punch resistance is totally gone. No point in seeing Wanderlei get beaten up by mw mediocrities like Jorge Rivera and co from now on, it's time he was put out to pasture I think.


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    horst, Jul 2, 2011
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  2. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    I didn't care enough to complain. Matt WHYman is a bit too boring for my taste.

    Hopefully Dana steps up and says enough is enough for Wanderlei. This was a fun fight and he just can't do it anymore. But it could be put down to shoddy tactics.
     
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  3. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    Chris Leben is s little more than a low level fighter. He's actually very underrated and a lower top 10 guy.
     
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  4. horst

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    Wiman boring?! I think he's one of the most aggressive fighters out there. He may not have KO power, but he never stops attacking his opponent. I really enjoyed this fight.
     
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  5. horst

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    Who said anything to the contrary?
     
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  6. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    Plus Silva made the mistake of trading shot for shot with Chris Leben. That's a "no no" and it should be something all fighters should memorize.
     
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  7. Anarchy99

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    Plenty of die hard Wandy fans. I'm a huge axe murderer fan but Leben deserves his props for being p4p the toughest sonofabitch in the UFC.
     
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  8. horst

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    :nono Well, except he isn't. Leben is tough as hell, but he's been obliterated twice. Save the "toughest of all" title for someone who has never been wiped out. One example would be Chris Lytle. He may not get the love that Leben gets, but Lytle has had 53 pro fights and has been fighting in the UFC on and off since 2000. Dude has NEVER been knocked out.
     
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  9. horst

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    Except Brian Stann of course.
     
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  10. Primate

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    I'd like to see Wand retire now. I'll always watch him fight, but the result with Leben is the last thing I ever want to see.
     
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  11. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    wtf ? ESb sin't down ??
     
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  12. Anarchy99

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    The only times Leben has been knocked out is with knees. That's how both Anderson and Stann beat him. Knees. I doubt either one would stand toe to toe and trade hooks.
     
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  13. Koa

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    Not a fan of the wall n stall.

    Siver won the first, both had takedowns but Siver had the better standup. I could give two shits if Wiman held his leg like it was a **** for the rest of the round.

    Round 2 was all Wiman. Actually got takedowns and nasty gnp, very nasty gnp.

    3, Siver got the striking. I thought Siver won.

    ****ing wall n stall, grabbing the 3rd leg **** is okay if its happening for 20 seconds. Not 2-3 minutes. If he couldn't work a takedown in that time he should be penalized for fighting like a homo.

    Then Wiman had the nerve to cry about the **** and walk off at the end of the fight. All he had to do was complete his takedown and land a few elbows and he would have won it.
     
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  14. Koa

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    Wandy is done.

    His chin is gone.. I'm wondering if people were hearing rumors about the guys he trains with knocking him out going half speed with full head gear.. His punch resistance is virtually zero. I hate to be so blunt but I love the guy and want to see him involved in MMA still. My favorite fighter of all time.

    UFC should hire him, promote MMA in Brazil and use him as a more international version of Liddell. Everyone loves him.
     
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  15. Primate

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    Yeah, if they're serious about going back to Japan Wandy would be very useful
     
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