I am proud of Wlad and I think most should be.

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  1. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hear me out. I am not a Klitschko fan per say. I like Wlad for the most part. I think Vitali is a dbag, but at the end of the day it's their fans I can't stand. They are delusional.

    Anyway, here's my point.

    Wlad did what he had to do today. He took on a guy with speed, power, and talent. He won a wide decision. What more can the guy do? I know on paper Wlad dominated, but he was tagged with some SOLID and HARD shots tonight. I think his defining moment of the fight came in round 12. He was CLEARLY hurt, and instead of holding on, he came back and landed back to back 1-2 combos.

    I think Wlad did what he had to do, pressed the fight, came forward most of the time, and won the biggest fight of his career thus far.

    In time, I hope that he makes over 15-18 title defenses. He will go down as the best of his era. Like Marciano, he can't control how weak the era is. All he can do is dominate and win.

    Props to Wlad. :good:happy:soccergr::cheers
     
  2. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he's a safety first fighter, what that means are most fans are not gonna like it.
     
  3. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wins are better than losses when all is said and done.

    I know Wlad is boring, but I admire what he's done his whole career for the most part.

    Assuming he keeps defending that title, he's gonna be right behind Louis and Holmes for most defenses. 25 and 20 respectively. With Wlad's dominance he can easily attain 15.
     
  4. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad didn't impress me tonite. Wlad looks great against fat slobs who become stationary after a few founds, but Haye didn't do that. Wlad missed several punches, and his jab looked mediocre at best. Not saying Haye was anything great, his punching form looked like **** and if Wlad was even a decent counter puncher. He would of made Haye pay for it, but he didn't.

    The fight wasn't that boring, and at times I was into it. Though neither fighter showed world class skills to me, just being honest.
     
  5. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye made Wlad's jab look bad cause he has solid head movement, but as the fight went on it seemed to me Wlad landed the jab more and more.

    I still think Wlad showed me something by responding to Haye's biggest punch of the fight in the last round, by coming back with solid blows of his own.
     
  6. dkwrtw

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  7. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye is a slippery fish haha. Wish I bet large on Wlad outright. He had almost zero trouble in this fight. Oh well.
     
  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He still lunged into Haye after being shook. Same thing he's always done when gets hurt by a punch.

    Like I said, if your impressed by Wlad's performance tonite. You must be easy to please. Wlad's usually more accurate with his punches and usually gets his man out of there before 12th. He was unable to do either in this fight.
     
  9. vargasfan1985

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    He did lunge in and hold a bit, but he could have kept holding, but he went right back to attacking him.

    I didn't say I was impressed, but he won like 9-11 rounds depending on who you ask. Also I think his accuracy was dipped cause of Haye, who had GOOD head movement and slipped quite a few shots. Also Haye was on his bike, shying away most of the night.

    I don't know how this is hard to comprehend.
     
  10. Punisher33

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    I get what your saying, but also how many times did Haye throw a looping overhand right and was in a perfect position to be countered. Yet, Wlad was still unable to pull the trigger? Wlad did enough to win tonite. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
  11. Grecorussian

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    I am not a big fan of Wlad but let's face it.
    Today, he is simply the best.
    I don't know what would happen if Tyson , Ali etc. were active. But that doesn't mean anything. His dominance is unbelievable...
    Congratulations Wlad ! :good
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The only people Wlad impressed last night were his won hardcore fans. Wlad does what he needs to do to win but for many thats is the antithesis of what a heavyweight champion should be.

    Wlad is damn effective at what he does, he has a style and strategy that works for him and he executed it perfectly and while he deserves credit for not being goaded by Haye's mind games it's hard for many fans to see the appeal in the way he fights now.

    Lewis was often accused of being overly cautious, Hopkins is also accused of being boring but even these 2 boxers actually trade with an opponent when they need to. Wlad is a boxer but not a fighter, what he does in the ring is to minimise conflict and prevent a fight actually occurring it's like anti-boxing. It isn't hit and not get hit, it's not get his at all costs and if that means having to throw a real punch then do so but no more than that.
     
  13. vargasfan1985

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    I am not a "hardcore" fan of Wlad, but I have been watching him for almost 10 years. If anything, he's way better now. I can see him fighting until he is 40, providing he can stay focused. He clearly won't fall victim to getting old overnight. The guy stays in phenomenal shape all year around and clearly is not a party animal.
     
  14. Punisher33

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    For the sake of the division, I would love to see Wlad retire. Heavyweight boxing is dead outside of germany, god knows it is in America. If I walked into the bar tonite and asked 10 guys who Wlad Klitschko is. My guess is maybe 2 or 3 might know. If I asked who the heavyweight champ of the world is, I doubt anyone would say Wlad. I think you would get more people naming UFC fighters than anything else.
     
  15. konaman

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    One of the frustrating parts about watching the fight was Wlad's inability to counter a very open Haye. He isn't easy to hit when he is only thinking of defense, but the minute he throws or beings moving his feet defense goes out the window.

    I expected Wlad to KO Haye and he fought too cautiously to do that. I don't rate Haye as a heavyweight, and i think you would find the second tier heavyweights from recent generations like Morrison, Ruddock, Mercer, Tucker etc, especially any of the ones who hit hard and could take a punch, would put his lights out or beat him decisively. In that light i don't think it is that good of a win in the grand scheme of things, its more of an achievement, unifying some belts and beating a mouthy puncher, something he needed to check off his bucket list.