The Siver-Wiman decision was disgusting, and sadly Wanderlei should be cut now.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by horst, Jul 2, 2011.


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  1. TheBradyHawkes

    TheBradyHawkes ۞ Full Member

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    Why was Wandy on this card and not 134 in Brazil? That card is loaded with Brazilians and he's got to be more beloved there than any of them.

    Time for him to retire though. What a ****ing legend.
     
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  2. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because if that had happened in Brazil Leben wouldn't have made it out of the venue alive.
     
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  3. TheBradyHawkes

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    Let's hope that fate is reserved for Schaub. :yep
     
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  4. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no idea why Wandy picked the one guy who can stand there and KO anyone with one punch and doesn't give a fudgepack.

    Wandy is now much more useful to Zuffa as a icon, and not as a fighter.
     
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  5. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    No. He's not. Not even close. By ANY standard Leben is just a journeyman who sells ticket and epitomises what the UFC is all about. He's a nobody and not even fit enough to tie Wandy's boots.
     
    scurlaruntings, Jul 3, 2011
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  6. scurlaruntings

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  7. Shogun Assassin

    Shogun Assassin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wand definitely needs to retire :-(
     
    Shogun Assassin, Jul 3, 2011
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  8. horst

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    :nono:nono:nono
     
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  9. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    So basically Leben is a bum who brawls? Ok. :patsch

    I fail to see to many UFC middleweights who could out fight Leben.
     
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  10. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    I want you to name 5 relevant current guys in the UFC who can give/get it better than Leben.
     
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  11. horst

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    (never KO'd in 53 fights)
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    (never KO'd in 25 fights despite splitting career between 2 weight classes)
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    (the guy only fights standing up, and has never been stopped nor even close to it in his career - and he obliterated Leben in a stand-up fight)
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    (has been fighting since 1999, 1st UFC was UFC30, only TKO defeats to GSP above Sherk's natural weight and to a flying knee from a prime BJ Penn
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    (in 33 fights he's suffered 1 doctor stoppage, and 1 legit stoppage which was in his 5th pro fight. Since then, rock solid even in stand-up. He stood up to Daley whereas Leben crumbled to Stann)
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    (only stoppage defeats to prime versions of the two most vicious fighters ever, Wanderlei and Shogun. One of the greatest ever at taking and giving)
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    (only TKO defeat ever due to strikes was to phenom Jones when Shogun was coming off a long lay-off. Showed same iron chin in Machida fights that he showed in Pride)

    That's not even including
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    , who would surely be in there if the UFC stipulation wasn't there. Another that could be argued is
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    And this is just rattled off the top of my head. I bet there are others I have overlooked.
     
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  12. Amrn4s

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    Really enjoyed Siver-Wimen fight. Although I have to disagree. Siver clearly won two rounds (1 and 3) clearly, he stuffed alot of the takedowns. Although Wimen is a though dude. Props to him.

    Wandy/ Leben fight was very disappointing. I really wanted to see some back and forth battle. Well it is wat it is.
     
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  13. Anarchy99

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    The only guy you named that fits the criteria I'm talking about is Nick Diaz.
     
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  14. horst

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    So your question wasn't really "who takes and gives it better", it was "who fights in the same style to Leben but is better at it", because guys like Lytle and Penn are better boxers than Leben and have never been knocked out like he has, so therefore they obviously are better taking it and giving it.
     
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  15. Anarchy99

    Anarchy99 Babalu will KILL You! Full Member

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    My criteria was who can you pound in the face with a ****in hammer yet will still come at you just as hard and most likely knock you out. Its Chris Leben. Lytle & Penn aren't those guys. Especially Penn. Rampage hasn't fit the bill since PRIDE, same with Rua.

    (Btw Penn has been stopped before by Matt Hughes. It was a TKO but face it, he was in a crucifix and royally ****ed)
     
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