Dan Rafael Shocking Lack of Professionalism

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  1. JMP

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    Dan Rafael represents everything wrong in the world today. He's the reason everything bad happens. In all seriousness though, I don't like him one bit. The guy's a ****ish slob.
     
  2. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    Yes. What was unprofessional in that?
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    :good

    I don't like the guy, and what he said concerning Briggs was just utterly disgusting.
    But he's 100% right about Haye.

    Haye is a disgrace. And he walked away with about £10 million. He talked the talk and didn't really attempt to walk the walk.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    I'll post it once more, see if anyone can tell us what is so wrong about this article ...... ?

    Dan Rafael's article :

    Like the other nine guys who Wladimir Klitschko has defended the heavyweight title against, David Haye promised he would end the champion's reign.


    In fact, the mouthy Haye talked and jabbered and howled and smack-talked for much of the past three years, promising to do all sorts of naughty things to Klitschko.



    Promised to leave him twitching on the ring mat, the victim of a crushing knockout. Promised the most brutal execution ever.
    Promised a lot of things.
    Delivered nothing.

    All that Haye -- one of the biggest heavyweight frauds of all time -- did was bark. Like a dog. Because he sure didn't fight much, as Klitschko -- as dominant as ever at age 35 -- picked him apart for the lopsided decision on Saturday in rainy Hamburg, Germany.
    It was not a scintillating fight. Far from it. But Klitschko did what he usually does: outbox, outjab, outmuscle and outthink his opponent en route to total domination.
    The only thing Klitschko didn't do was score the knockout -- only the second time in this, his second reign, that the opponent has heard the final bell.
    Haye made it to the bell because he took none of the chances he promised he would. Instead, he fought scared.
    As Klitschko said afterward, "I wish I could have knocked him out impressively. He was scared to fight me. I was expecting more of a challenge in the ring, more aggression. He was super-defensive, like all of them."
    After all of the garbage and trash Haye talked, he never came close to backing it up. He said repeatedly that he would retire after the fight. It looked more to me like he retired during the first round, because he didn't really fight.
    After the fight, I was thinking about what excuse Haye would come up with. I figured he'd say he had a hand injury. I was close: He claimed to have a broken toe on his right foot that didn't allow him to push off and land his so-called "Hayemaker" right hand.
    Excuses, excuses, excuses.
    Every fighter has injuries. Few come to the ring without bumps and bruises from a tough training camp. I'm sure Klitschko was also dinged up.



    But given the way Haye has always handled himself, I am not surprised at all that he had an alibi at the ready, so much so that he came to his interview in the ring after the fight with HBO's legendary Larry Merchant with his sock already off so that the camera could get a good look at his allegedly injured digit.
    It looked OK to me, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was injured. If so, take the loss like a man and shut up about it.
    There is no Toe-gate here. Haye was simply outclassed by a supreme champion who still has not been challenged to any serious degree since 2005.
    Against Haye, Klitschko won 118-108, 117-109 and 116-110. I also had it 118-108. And Haye, who continually flopped to the ground -- I lost track of how many times, frankly -- to buy a point deduction from referee Geno Rodriguez, complaining that Klitschko shoved him to the mat, finally got one in the seventh round. It was a bogus deduction, but Rodriguez fell for it.
    But even Rodriguez realized he was being conned, so when Haye flopped again in the 11th round, the ref ruled it a knockdown. It's not like Klitschko needed the extra point. He was cruising.
    He landed 134 of 509 punches (26 percent), according to CompuBox. Haye's output was downright pathetic: just 72 of an anemic 290 blows (26 percent).
    You can't win if you don't throw. And Haye didn't throw.
    I find that funny because, all along, Haye has called Klitschko a boring fighter. And yet on this night, the biggest of his career, Haye was the one who disgraced himself by making it boring, by running away, by not engaging, by not doing much of anything.
    Well, except for making excuses about a hurt toe.
    So it was Klitschko with another dominant win, a 10th title defense (one more than the prime Mike Tyson during his first run) and now a fourth sanctioning body title in the family. Klitschko and brother Vitali now own all four major belts.
    Three for Wladimir and one for Vitali, with no serious challengers on the horizon. (I say that with all due respect to Tomasz Adamek, who I don't give much of a chance against Vitali on Sept. 17. But I know he will at least leave it all in the ring unlike Haye.)
    Folks can say whatever they want about the Klitschko brothers, but they win and win and win. They dominate.
    Some people want them out of boxing because they aren't the most exciting fighters. Fine. Go find somebody to beat them.
    Lord knows, Haye sure talked like he would. Talked and talked and talked.
    But his talk turned out not only to be cheap. It was worthless.


    ?????
     
  5. Russkie

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    He got paid more than $10M for this fiasco. Millions of people around the world (police, firefighters, soldiers) put their life on the line for peanuts compared to the cautious delusional excuse-maker Haye.


     
  6. paulfv

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    Love what Rafael wrote about Haye, both on his Twitter (that I saw) and in the post-fight blog.

    Haye talked mad junk, and did nothing to back it up. He deserves the fallout, from Rafael, HBO and others. And he's getting it. It was a pathetic performance he put up against Wlad. To be fair, though, there wasn't much else he could have done. However, he talked far too much and did nothing to back any of it up. His fault.

    I disagree with what Rafael said about Briggs, but agree with much he has said about Haye and Mayweather.

    Those who are upset about what Rafael is saying about Haye: Too bad. Rafael is just giving Haye back some of the ridiculous trash-talk Haye spewed for years about Wlad and others.

    When you lose and punk out, this is what can happen to you. If you don't want the grief, don't talk junk and then fail to deliver. No talk, no big payday. But also: no talk, no getting it thrown back in your face by someone who is happy you got dominated.
     
  7. danny82efc

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    I think people where complaining more about the tone of his twitter feed then the article.
     
  8. UFgators

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    Yeah didnt like the Briggs stuff but Dan is 100% correct on this.
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    news flash...you dont have to box to be an expert on boxing..hes been around covering fights for 50 years....if someone sucks or is dogging it, he will let you know.... maybe they should only allow commentators and journalist jobs ONLY if they boxed....
     
  10. Goodhill

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    Here is the twitter - I think this is hilarious

    @danrafaelespn hey D$$$$ how dare you make fun of Haye's masterful performance! Yours truly Kevin Johnson! lol



    @danrafaelespn Here's hoping there's never a Klitschko vs Haye Part Toe. Oh wait...
    1 hour ago

    danrafaelespn@
    @danrafaelespn Nadal just lost the Wimbledon final, he hasn't taken his shoe off to show everyone his sore foot. #mytoehurts
    1 hour ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    No toe injuries here as Ola Afolabi scored sick KO1 of Terry Dunstan on Klitschko-Haye undercard: http://tinyurl.com/6y7cqtx #mytoehurts
    1 hour ago

    danrafaelespn@
    @danrafaelespn In honor of Haye, you should withhold your weekend recap until Toes-day...
    2 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @jetsgreen Maybe toe-morrow. #mytoehurts
    2 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    If you missed my Klitschko-Haye postfight column, check it out toe-day: http://tinyurl.com/6ay8xow #mytoehurts #boxing
    3 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Flipped on HBO & see replay of Klitschko-Haye. Right at point of show where Haye is coming out to 'Ain't Toe Stopping Us Now.' #mytoehurts
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    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @SalsaSnacker Never bought the hype. Ever.
    14 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Liten to Adam Booth make excuses for Haye: skysports.com/video/inline/0… #mytoehurts #hesacruiserweight #refereewasbad #blahblahblah #alibi #excuses
    14 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Thanks for follows for the fight coverage. Toe bad Haye didn't come toe fight. Talk toe all the Fight Freaks toe-morrow. #boxing #mytoehurts
    14 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @ChillPenury Thank you.
    14 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @ian304 Typical.
    14 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @CarlBrandt #truth #mytoehurts
    14 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @gmc_1988 Actually Tony Thompson did the best of anyone vs. Klitschko in his current reign.
    15 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @SalsaSnacker LOL!!!!!!! Pretty even fight? Wow. Drugs do that to people. #mytoehurts
    15 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Attention Fight Freaks, my column on Klitschko (still champ) & Haye (his toe hurts): http://tinyurl.com/6ay8xow #mytoehurts #boxing
    15 hours ago

    priusdan priusdan
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    @danrafaelespn Dan, will they replay it Toe-Morrow?
    15 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Letting you know that If you missed Klitsch-toe vs. Haye, the HBO replay just began on the East Coast. #boxing #mytoehurts
    15 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @EddieHearn Love the Brits and their passion. Just not the ones who boo national anthems and talk out of their arse. :)
    15 hours ago

    ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
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    David Haye is an embarrassment. Can't talk like that and lay down like a dog.
    19 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
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    @anconinn12 a) I'll talk whenever I want. b) It wasn't my decision.
    16 hours ago

    califresh4life brian
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    @danrafaelespn well vlad did his part he ***** slapped him for 12 rounds
    16 hours ago

    revrandfaze Randy Fazekas
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    @danrafaelespn Toe Be or not Toe be that is the question. Brutal execution of a Toe @mrdavidhaye #mytoehurts # severe case of toe jam
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    Chynaman78 Devale Jackson
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    @danrafaelespn Haye landed his best punch in the 12th but it was clearly TOE little TOE late
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    nbrown02 Nick Brown
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    @danrafaelespn I thought Haye was going to go TOE-to-TOE with Wlad? #mytoehurts #boxing #excuses
    17 hours ago

    fightfreakerik Erik from Atlanta
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    @danrafaelespn for a man with broken toe @mrdavidhaye sure did look good running for his life in the ring!
    17 hours ago

    Fuzzy___Dunlop Fuzzy Dunlop
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    @danrafaelespn Haye was toe-tally outclassed.
    17 hours ago

    suburbanwins ****** Smith
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    @danrafaelespn Wasn't Christy Martin SHOT before her last fight? Did she use that as an excuse for the loss? #mytoehurts
    17 hours ago

    DanSouthWales Daniel Williams
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    @danrafaelespn If we are throwing around puns about @mrdavidhaye we all know it boils down to 'Toe much talk,not enough action'
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    isaacs81 Paddy McGurk
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    @danrafaelespn "Ain't no stoppin' us now, except ma toe"
    17 hours ago

    Kash786786 Cash
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    @danrafaelespn It was a TOETAL disaster for Haye tonight.
    17 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Funny, I thought @mrdavidhaye said he was going to retire after the fight. I could have sworn he retired in the first round. #mytoehurts
    17 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    LeBron had The Decision. Haye has The excuse. #mytoehurts #boxing #excuses
    17 hours ago

    SpartanBoxing David Carr Diaz
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    @danrafaelespn David Toebreaker Haye
    18 hours ago

    tommyz0077 Tommy Zografos
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    @danrafaelespn Bill Laimbeer is jealous of David Haye's flopping
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    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Not sure I can write this column. #myfingerhurts #boxing #excuses
    18 hours ago

    dansws Dan Sutherland
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    @danrafaelespn he probably hurt the toe while sticking his foot in his mouth!
    18 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Going live on ESPNEWS in a moment. #boxing #mytoehurts
    18 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Wlad plans to wear a t-shirt with a picture of him holding Haye's severed toe. #mytoe #stilllaughingsohard #boxing
    18 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    I think that's the 1st time I've ever seen a fighter take off his sock to show his toe in the ring after the fight. #laughingsohard #mytoe
    18 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    @Shakoor74 Legendary.
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    Shakoor74 Ali Shakoor
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    @danrafaelespn Ronnie Lott just called me, and said he's not impressed by Haye's excuse.
    18 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Did Haye hurt his toe three weeks ago or while flopping round after round? #justaskin #boxing
    18 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Shoulda cut the toe off. He has nine others. #excuses #mytoehurts
    18 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Damn. I was wrong. The excuse from Haye wasn't his hand. It was an injured toe. #fraud
    18 hours ago

    hectorconga Hector Conga
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    @danrafaelespn Haye just spat in the faces of all his fans and the boxing world with that pathetic performance
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    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Brits can't even go out and drown their sorrows because they are already drunk. #boxing
    19 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Most anticipated part of this fight will be to hear Haye's excuses. #boxing #myhandhurt
    19 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    I will be appearing on ESPNEWS at 6:45 pm ET to discuss Klitschko's easy work against an opponent who was utterly outclassed. #boxing
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    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Haye spent more time flopping and looking to the referee for help than trying to punch. Meanwhile, Wlad pumped the jab, hook and right hand.
    19 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Klitschko and Haye did embrace after the scores were read. Haye to talk all that smack and not even see to try was a joke. #boxing
    19 hours ago

    danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
    Klitschko W12 Haye, 118-108, 117-109, 116-110. Easy work against a thoroughly outclassed opponent. #boxing
    19 hours ago
     
  11. Abdullah

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    I'll tell ya what he wrote......he wrote that you were WRONG!!! Remember???? Huh?? Do.....you.....remember???? I told you that **** ass David Haye would lose, didn't I? Don't you feel like a complete ignoramus? You should. You said I would be embarrassed today.....I don't feel embarrassed......not at all. You?? Hahaha!

    :lol:<~~~ another one of these, it's what you're used to.
     
  12. audio101

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    Takes a big man to take millions to fight with a broken pinky toe! You are joke.
     
  13. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. :good

    Plenty of things about Rafael annoy me, like his hatred of Hopkins. But he tells the truth about Mayweather and he nailed it on Haye.

    The people who are upset about HBO and Rafael punking Haye are Haye fans, of course. Not only did "their guy" get rolled by Wlad, but HBO and now Rafael are rubbing it in. Good. Haye deserves that for all the crap he talked.

    The people who are upset that HBO and Rafael are clowning Haye are the same people who loved it when Haye was talking trash about the Klitschkos.

    Not so fun when you lose, eh? Wahhhhhhh. If you don't want the blowback, don't start with the trash talk. If you talk trash, you better be ready to deal with getting it back in your face if you lose or can't back up what you say.

    That's how it goes, for everybody. No one gets a free pass, and Haye certainly isn't going to get one. I'm glad Rafael is making sure that is the case, as HBO did last night.
     
  14. audio101

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    Takes a big man to take millions to fight with a broken pinky toe! Why should anyone show him respect, he accepted that money and actually demanded half of the purse and did nothing to earn it. Only a clown would give him respect for what he did last night...
     
  15. CLUBBER

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    I hate that fat pig lolll