Why are fans of 'The Sweet Science' (Floyd/Bhop fans) slow to defend the Klitschkos?

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Nobody like Ruiz because he falls in the category you mentioned in your last paragraph. If Ruiz had the dominance the Klits have, his boring style coupled with low KO rate would be tolerable because I would focus more on how effective he was at actually winning. He's not in the same league as the Klits and really shouldn't be compared to them. When you can't get support from your fellow Puerto Ricans, that means you bring nothing to the table. The Klits have brought a decade of dominance. That's worthy of respect at the very least.

 

If the Klits don't know how to box, then Manny Steward must be a horrible trainer. Why don't you apply for his job?

 

the reason is because if Mayweather/B-Hop had every conceivable physical advantage over their opponents they would knock the **** out of them. Wlad has the power/speed/skills to take his ridiculously mismatched opponents out in exciting fashion and is happy to paw the jab for 9-10 rounds until he unleashes the right. If Mayweather or B-Hop had 10-20 pounds on an opponent, a way longer reach, more power and were several classes above them in talent they would destroy guys. Look at Mayweather vs Ndou, Gatti, Corrales etc.... All guys who were destroyed by him yet weren't mismatched as far as weight/height/reach/power now imagine Mayweather fighting those same guys but being 20 pounds heavier and 3 inches taller yet only opting to jab at them for 10 rounds until taking them out in boring fashion...that's what Wlad does.

watching wlad is frustrating cause we all know he can destroy guys and never chooses to do so. not to mention he throw 3 punches- jab (only punch for first 5 rounds and basically the only punch he thows more than twice a round) left hook (1 or 2 times per round after round 5) and straight right (3-4 times per fight). also he doesn't have the slicness of movement that makes watching guys like pernell and mayweather exciting when they're defensive. Watching a huge monster of a man fight like a robot and jab someone for an entire fight is not the same as watching a mayweather or pernell making fighters look stupid when they miss and countering with every punch in the book and fighting creatively

 

I gotta put this out here just in case somebody didnt know,( AINT NOTHING SWEET ABOUT THAT **** THAT VLAD BE PUTTING OUT ) He gets the job done but his stick and move game leaves a lot to be desired. The sweet science is not about the style of a fighter but how he masters his style and displays his talent in a way that makes an onlooker elbow his partner and say Dam! that **** is sweet. Vlad aint got that.

 

This is too simple.

Wlad - bigger man, by far in all his fights. Fights like a fairy. Jab Jab Grab + Wrestle to ground.

No respect.

 

I LOVE technical boxers, and even I find Wlad a bit boring. He's okay to watch, but there's just something vital missing. It's like he's content to just stand around and jab, jab, jab for the whole night -- the jab is actually my favourite punch, and even I find it tiresome when Wlad does it. I think it's because I like speed, slickness, and fluidity -- Wlad doesn't seem remarkable in any of those areas. (He's not slow, mind you -- but the point is that he doesn't really rely on speed, he mainly relies on keeping you at range by boxing tall and always maintaining distance.)

I like to watch Floyd fight because he nearly always impresses me in the ring -- really tight, crisp shots, excellent speed and a highly skilful defence. He doesn't just jab, and he's not stiff and upright at all.

Wlad is the kind of boxer where I can respect what he does in the ring, but I just don't really enjoy it at all. I actually prefer watching Haye fight, even with his sloppy, wild swings.

 

I think Caneman and many others are aware of what some would say is the "real" answer to this question.

Good job, Caneman -- an excellent and thought-provoking thread which asked a question that deserves to be asked. :good:good

 

Klitscho doesn't fight with the Sweet SCIENCE LMAO

JMM, Donaire, Mares, Mayweather, BHOP, Guerrero, Montiel...

None bore me with a jab jab jab jab, one right every 2 rounds... LMAO not even comparable.

 

Weight advantages in the heavyweight division don't play as much of a factor as they do in the lower weights. A human being's punching power to punch resistance ratio is not a straight line. A heavyweight weighing 210 pounds has the power to knockout a 300 pound heavyweight. Tyson was typically outweighed 15 pounds or more by his larger opponents but had no problems taking them out. Wlad has been KOd by a much smaller Corey Sanders, and that's why he fights with caution, because one flush punch to his jaw from any heavyweight can end the fight. Wlad fights the smartest fight for himself and wins and does so in brutal fashion most of the time. Apparently, that's not enough to even garner respect from so-called "fans of the sweet science" - those who claim it's all about hitting without getting hit. After I made this thread, it became "hitting without getting hit and looking pretty like Floyd". atsch

 

well you got plenty of credible answers. If you still don't understnad, or don't care to understand then o well

 

Yes, I got alot of good honest answers. They just don't all make perfect sense and some are quite hypocritical.

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Would you care to elaborate?

 

Well when you talk about sweet science, we can watch a fighter's defense and be entertained and appreciative.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aerkHG_7A[/ame]
Now that's beauty to the eye.

Plus it's not even about being entertained. From a skill standpoint, I think Wlad is very good, but he's very one dimensional ans somewhat limited

 

Being the bigger man in the heavyweight division doesn't mean everything. If it did Valuev and Julius Long would be kings. A small heavyweight like Tyson can knockout any heavyweight regardless of weight. Corey Sanders was much smaller (and older) than Wlad but he scored a KO win.

This thread is about boxing fans who swear by their "smart boxers", but don't defend the Klitschkos for fighting the "smart fight".