Prime Tyson Vs Wlad Klit (now), who wins?

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  1. boxingscorecard

    boxingscorecard Active Member Full Member

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    anybody that thinks wlad beats a prime tyson better go and watch another sport as they clearly have no clue on this one

    wlad simply hasnt got the chin to last 3 rounds with peak tyson

    speed and power kills
     
  2. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    Good job!

    That is no way any version of Vlad lasts 2 rounds with prime Tyson.
    Tyson was a beast, while Haye is actually an unknown having faced nowhere near the competition level of Tyson.
    A prime Tyson murders both Vlad and Haye, then eats their children.
     
  3. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    The template you would have to go by is the Douglas-Tyson fight. Douglas was able to neutralize Tyson's aggression by using footwork, which Wlad has a great deal of...his most underrated attribute he has, and by just grabbing and clinching, which Wlad does quite a bit and everybody is aware that he does that quite a bit. The differences is Douglas left himself open at times. Throwing hooks, and uppercuts, throwing combos and leaving himself open. While Wlad wouldn't do that. Safety first jab, jab, grab, and jab, jab, step back. I think that definitely could frustrate Tyson very much, ala his fight with Douglas. The big key is when Wlad would get hit, because Douglas was pretty clean, but got hit....the question would be if Wlad could stand up to Tyson's punches. Again, going back to the differences between Wlad and Douglas is that Douglas was possessed, he was focused, he had that will that he would not lose. Tyson meanwhile, was still in his prime he still had his conditioning and movement, he just wasn't at his peak, obviously, without Cus.

    So, in a nutshell, I think it would have been a very intriguing fight and it would be interesting to see if Tyson could have gotten Wlad out of there early. If he couldn't, Wlad could take a decision or may'be even stop Tyson late. I won't make a prediction because it's pointless because that fight isn't and won't ever happen, obviously, and I, and everybody, else doesn't know how the fight would have played out. Would have been interesting. It's one of the many many fantasy fights I wish we could have seen.
     
  4. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wladimir can't stay two rounds with Tyson but Douglas who never beat a top heavyweight before or after Tyson did.:lol:
    And kicked Tyson's ass:good
     
  5. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    well if its as easy as u say,i can do it too
     
  6. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    you seem to be equating Haye and Tyson. Is that right, "Bubby"?
     
  7. JMP

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    That wasn't the focused, Rooney trained monster.
     
  8. Rob887

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    So you think you're Mike Tyson?:huh
     
  9. warman

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    Hard to pick, in the end these threads dont make sense, because everything is extremely subjective, and there are too many factors that can affect the outcome of the fight.

    But IMO; young Tyson either KO's Wlad early, or loses on points, but getting a KD or two.

    90's Tyson ("Prison, drugs n' **** Tyson") loses by UD.
     
  10. Rob887

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    Prime Tyson knocks Wlad out.
     
  11. Rob887

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    But would have more than a decent chance against an early Wlad.
     
  12. warman

    warman Guest

    Yeah, IMO early wlad loses to all versions of Tyson by early KO.
     
  13. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye is clearly a little faster than Tyson, yes Tyson hits harder, but Wladimir hits harder than Douglas and is a hell of a lot faster, Douglas won because he would keep Tyson on the outside with the jab and when Tyson got inside, Douglas would tie him up.
    Does that Sound like anybody you hate????
     
  14. Bogotazo

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    Tyson would take Wlad out of his comfort zone with his collection of athletic ability/speed and technical abilities making him almost the perfect stylistic swarmer. Crowding and throwing hooks & uppers from all angles while advancing with unpredictable head movement would seem an adequate remedy for Wlad's outside-dependent style.

    I wouldn't be surprised, however, to see Wlad use his footwork and jab to cause Tyson problems, and if surviving the early rounds, being able to start hitting him more regularly later on, as Tyson tired and Wlad gets more into a rhythm.

    Wlad would have more of a chance if he threw with more confidence early on to establish his reach and control the distance with straight punches, but he was apprehensive against Haye, and Tyson would absolutely capitalize on someone with a tentative offense and a partially open guard.
     
  15. Rob887

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    No he's not!! Tyson is clearly faster at HW, by a fair bit too I'd say.

    Tyson's punches are traveling a shorter distance also, he doesn't wing his punches like Haye and most are at close range.