Roach: We want the Floyd fight "badly"

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    are you an idiot? margo was never licensed during that time. remember the 2nd negotiation which was mediated by greenburg? and after waiting for floyd, pacquiao didn't signed immediately for a margo fight even if arum wants to move on. so why did floyd took a vactaion again?

    also floyd is taking another tune-up according to him. then will he take another long vacation after getting his easy money and fooling all boxing fans especially his fans again just like when he fooled you last year when you thought floyd would be fighting pac but took a vacation instead samski? you even have a thread before that you are almost sure that floyd would fight pacquiao before the end of 2010 samski.
     
  2. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your bias is astounding. 3 days dude... 3 days. Total duck. They were setting up the paperwork with Clottey while they were supposedly negotiating with Mayweather. ALL THE EXCUSES? Do you even listen to yourself? It was ONE REQUEST!!! Not multiple... ONE. What are ALL THE EXCUSES? Give me a f'ing break... and not one word about ALL THE EXCUSES Pacquiao gave about the drug testing? Get the **** out of here......

    Fact is, they had no plans to fight Mayweather. Signing a fight 3 days later only confirms that fact.

    If Mayweather walked away from the table like Manny did, and signed a fight 3 days later, you would blame Pacquiao? Sure dude..... And I got a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you too.

    I can say for a fact if these roles/actions were reversed, I would blame Mayweather.
     
  3. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They want to fight Floyd badly? I thought they would want to fight him well!

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  4. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike never accused Holy before the fight. I gurantee you won't find any link, audio or video of Mike blasting Holy prior to the fights. And you won't fight King doing so either.

    If you find me ONE source showing me that Mike "BLASTED" Evander before wither of their fights I'll stand corrected and man up.

    And Evander eventually did get caught with the same testing measures that are threaded thorughout boxing..NOT what Floyd is demanding. And Holy only had to take ONE test, post fight which isn't anything like what Floyd wants. Had Floyd demanded a the most sensible test which is a POST fight blood test.

    Chances are if Holy was on PED's so was Mike. And Mike has more symptoms of rage that stems from using steroids. Just b/c holy past a test doesn't mean he was clean and just b/c Mike did doesn't mean he was either.

    If PAC takes the tests, which he agreed to....then NO...all this doesn't go away. If he beats Floyd...the accuastions that Floyd created are still there. He'll use that as a way to justtify his first loss or if Manny loses Floyd will have created credence for his unfounded Accusations that we still have no evidence or facts to support.

    PAC has only given one reason for NOT wanting to test too close to the fight....which is not liking the way he feels after giveing blood. Which is the same reason that dates all the way back to 2004 or 2005. All the other excuses came from Floyd's side and incompetent members of both camps.
     
  5. amdbs

    amdbs UNDISPUTED G.O.A.T Full Member

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    Rightly so that Floyd agreed. It would be ridiculous for Floyd if the $10 million per pound penalty became an obstacle. What's the problem of the $10 million per pound existing anyway? It would only affect Floyd if he deliberately do that unsporting move he did against Marquez.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    can any floyd fan answer this? :yep

    floyd saying pacquiao is next means nothing until he stays up after the ortiz tune-up, negotiate sincerely and not take a vacation during negotiation.
     
  7. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're silly......:lol: It baffles me that you are this blind to you own bias and have the gall to try and label me as one.:rofl You smell of "Struggle" and desperation kid.

    Floyd's reasons for NOT fighting range from losing his urge, an extended vacation to planning a wedding. PAC's only reason for NOT wanting to have blood taken from him too close to the fight was the fact that he didn't like the way he felt afterwards. Which is very common with those who don't like to give blood. I know a few.

    So you would Blame Floyd if PAC accused Floyd of being a cheat, then demanded that he take HIS tests in order for the fight to be made?:lol::lol::lol: You know you are bullshitting yourself kid and Floyd wouldn't have even entertained the idea of fighting PAC under those conditions and circumstances.

    You funny as **** bro..;..:nut
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Exactly. Just check out this interview with Brian Kenney where he clearly states that he is willing to get tested, just not the day of the fight(in the same interview he changes his tune once Kenney reminds him that Mayweather offered a 14 day cutoff)

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCa1-X7ey5Y[/ame]

    It's amazing that 15 year old girls that weigh unde 100 lbs. can get their blood drawn and then go out and perform gymnastics routines at an elite level that very same day, but the p4p champ can't even train hard for a few days if he gets his blood drawn.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    When you donate blood, they take a pint. When you have a blood test, they take a tablespoon. Big difference.
     
  10. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It amazes me as well. I have NO adverse effects after I give blood.... I don't get light headed, feel weak or sick. However....I've SEEN grown ass men pass out after giving blood, I've seen adult women fall ill and have the inability to funciton after giving blood and I've seen little girls go right back to class after donating blood.

    Fact is there's certain situations that some folks react differently to. Like flying or enclosed spaces. I have no issues with flying but my wife breaks down with the thought of having to Floyd in an air plane. I'm cool with enclosed spaces and don't feel like I'm having an anxiety attack in tight places but some people hyper ventilate.
     
  11. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realize that a PINT equals 2 cups! :lol: I've done a lot of blood drives and it's possible to take a PINT, but that is NOT the common practice kid. Taking a PINT of blood is highly risky for any blood drive or even blood work situation. They can take UP TO A PINT but most avoid taking that much knowing that there are effects that are dangerous with that much blood taken.
     
  12. Samski313

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    Pacquiao fought Clottey in March 2010then announced fight with Margo in July 2010with no license at all. Margo got his license to fight Pac in late August 2010.
     
  13. Jax

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    I think we all know why Pac doesn't want to take the tests, and it isn't the adverse effect of losing a tablespoon of blood.
     
  14. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realize that is practically impossible right? Just speaking to you from an IT perspective, but, in 1996 the Internet was just starting to take off. Finding sources and web sites from 1996-1997 is a next to impossible exercise. I'd have to search through old newspapers and magazines to find it. Web-sites/articles from 1996 are basically non-existent. I will make an attempt none-the-less. I remember the build up for the fight, and the steroid issue was front and center.

    Holyfield's book is the best thing I can find quickly, and he is stating that Tyson made it a requirement for the fight to go forward. He also admitted that refusing to take the tests would be taken as an admission of guilt. Something diehard Pacquiao fans can't seem to grasp. It was a straight out accusation, and Holyfield says as much in his book.

    "the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, called to tell me that Tyson would not fight Evander, unless he took a steroid test."

    "Tyson had no probable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward."

    He also said this......

    "I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt." -- Evander Holyfield
     
  15. amdbs

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    Mike Tyson asked Holyfield to take a drug test due to Dr. Margaret Goodman, chairman of the medical advisory board of Nevada Athletic Commission, says that as early as 1994, when Holyfield fought Michael Moorer and suffered heart problems, the medical arm of the Commission questioned Holyfield about possible HGH use.