Max Schmeling vs the Klitschkos

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Wladimir never lost to anyone of similar size to Schmeling.
    The smallest fighter he lost to was the 6'2 and 226 pound Brewster,
     
  2. bodhi

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    Who has only one innch in size and reach on Max. Which is similar sized. He´s more bulked up but this means just that he is slower and runs out of gas earlier.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Well, Thomas Hearns had similar height and reach - I wouldn't say he was similar size.
    Or would you say all three are similarly-sized ?

    Added weight/bulk makes a massive difference. "Bulk" is synonymous with "size".
    Brewster was 226. Schemling was 189. The same height but one looks bigger, and weighs 35 pounds more.
     
  4. bodhi

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    No, bulk is not synonymous with size. Yeah, Brewster looks bigger, doesn´t mean he is. Naturally they are the similar sized. Difference is, one bulked up, the other one trimmed down.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    How do you know what their "natural size" is ?
    Schmeling was still fighting at 175 pounds at age 22.
    Brewster turned pro at 220 pounds age 23.
    You say they are naturally the same size, so when did Brewster last weigh 175 ?


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  6. Kalasinn

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    Lets be honest, no 192lb man in history is beating Wlad.
     
  7. bodhi

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    Oh, semantics now. I can´t believe I´m argueing this with a guy who has Joey Maxim in his p4p Top10 :lol:

    Anyway, look at Brewster and you see a guy who looks half like a bodybuilder. He put muscle mass on on purpose. On the other hand you have Schmeling who looks like someone who doesn´t even touch weights. They train differently. That´s where the difference comes from. It´s soo obvious. But I guess you are just argueing for the sake of argueing. Have fun.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    You have me confused with someone else. :good

    Yes, semantics. I pointed out that bulk was synonymous with size, and you contradicted me and say "no, it's not".
    But it is. Isn't it ?


    What you mean is, Brewster is clearly BIGGER than Schmeling. :good
     
  9. Kalasinn

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    Please bodhi, don't try to compare a soft 192lbs to a quite solid 226lbs.

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  10. MRBILL

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    Wlad Klit with Manny Steward fine tuning his ass since 2004 has done wonders for Wlad and his career.... The man is certainly a top-20 ATG champion at 200+ pounds....

    And, well, Vitali Klit is a natural bad-ass with a mean streak that is currently un-excelled by any other active fighter.... He's solid all the way.....

    No way early 1930s Max Schmeling beats any recent version of the K-Brothers.... NO!

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  11. Kalasinn

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    Wlad got with Manny Steward in 2003, after the Sanders upset.
     
  12. Seamus

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    Now you've done it... told the truth.
     
  13. janitor

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    Jack Dempsey would have.

    I don't knopw if Schmeling would, but he would certainly have done a lot better than Haye. A Schmeling Carnera fight would have answered a few questions here.
     
  14. Valane

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    Brewster purposfully bulked and trained:!:
     
  15. Valane

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    Why are we comparing steroid physiques to natural physiques that didn't weight train?