How would Wlads speed work out against Ali?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by AnotherFan, Jul 6, 2011.


  1. Masamune

    Masamune Active Member Full Member

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    Theres only one thing wrong with your post -

    its **** !

    Wlad wasnt able to hit Haye with 'precision and big power' consistently so how the **** would he be able to catch Ali consistently ?

    unless of course your putting Haye on Ali's level :-(

    Ali v big robotic upright heavyweight = cleveland williams 1966 - go check it out .

    numb nut
     
  2. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's stupid! Man your Stupid!
     
  3. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He couldn't land a meaning full punch on Haye (well he landed one the whole fight), wtf do you think he's going to do with Ali?
     
  4. grouche

    grouche Guest

    It would be hard to slip Wlad's jab for anyone, even prime Mike and Fraiser, who were the best at bobbing and weaving their way in, forget Ali. Wlad is not committing on his punches unless he's sure to land and that includes his jab.
     
  5. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    Ali would always look a step ahead of Wladimir.
     
  6. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Endurance, toughness, ring IQ, mobility, ability to throw combinations.

    :lol: Outwork? He had trouble landing on Haye. Ali would actually jab him back, unlike most opponents.
     
  7. good

    good 'bad' Full Member

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    ali is soooooooooo over rated., both klitschkos would beat him.
     
  8. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Wlad's failure to barely touch a limited HW like Haye, showed how poorly he'd stack up against a great like Ali.
     
  9. good

    good 'bad' Full Member

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    it's tuff to touch a guy when there fighting scared..though the klitschko's must be geting better at it..everyone they fight is scared:scaredas:
     
  10. Ponysmallhorse

    Ponysmallhorse Small but proud Full Member

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    If you actually read my post you will find that Ali was taking more punches because he was not all defense minded. All Haye did is tried to avoid punches incoming and because of that he put him self in a position where he couldn't hit back effectively. Ali will be more offensive minded and will tke more punches because of that. Your untouchable ali is non existent entity he was hit in many of his fights by much lesser opponents even during his pre war run. It would be much harder to catch wlad coming in with counter punches precisely because of Wlads height and ability to recognize punches incoming. Despite what you think Haye managed to land only one solid shot in entire fight everything else was absorbed with movement and didn't do any damage. If you look at punch stats you will see that wlad landed almost double the amount haye did and he did exclusively to his head(actually it will be big mistake against Ali to head hunt too much) while haye landed third of his punches to the body. also wlad did as much as he needed to win a fight without much risk. If he was behind on scorecards he would have stepped on gas pedal.
    I also never said that Wlad will comfortably beat Ali or that he will knock him out. Wlads power and boxing ability will wear Ali down at some point and make him respect Wlad. I still would favor Ali on his adaptive ability alone, but this fight is much more competitive than most posters here think. I actually say that wlad has a better chance beating Ali then Lewis(Ali would exploit that lumbering footwork too much) even though I would heavily favor him against Wlad.
     
  11. Ponysmallhorse

    Ponysmallhorse Small but proud Full Member

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    Watch Highlights and educate yourself. You are embarrassing yourself.
     
  12. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    His speed plus size means he doesnt have to travel as far to get his head out of the way

    his reach means his jab can reach the target easily

    Ali is the kind of guy who can win agaisnt anyone even in their own game

    Ali is so hard to bet against h2h
     
  13. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I feel like Wlad's speed wouldn't be enough, but combined with his power and height advantage...Ali wouldn't have a very good day. Ali's the same size as Haye, and you saw how well the backing up worked for Haye.

    I'd easily favor Foreman and Frazier over Wlad, but Ali's style just wouldn't cut it.
     
  14. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one can argue how Ali would do against Wladimir because a fighter like Wlad is unprecedented in Ali's career.
    Ali never faced any fighter with the combination of size, power and speed that Wladimir has.
    Ali never faced a fighter with all the advantages that Wladimir would have.

    But Wladimir has fought many fighters with the same height, weight and reach as Ali.
    And Klitschko haters dont want to admit it, but he has faced fighters just as fast as Ali......
     
  15. kopejh

    kopejh Guest

    same reason a defensive genius like Whitaker slurs his speech now... he fought on for too long. fuking ******