Vitali-Byrd: Serious Question

Huh? You had Byrd wining by 2 points? Only a judge on the take would have this type of score. Vitali won most of the rounds. 7-2 or 6-3.

 

Byrd is a FEATHERFISTED blown-up supermiddle. At what times of what rounds did he hurt Vitali?? I did not see Vitali hurt once. Vitali was only hurt by Lewis And Sanders. Vitali has pure IRON CHIN.

 

I've just rewatched it with no sound

Vitali swept the first 4, that can't be denied IMO.

from rounds 5-9 it's close but Byrd has an argument for winning each of the rounds. The punchstats reflect this.

From round 5 onwards

vitali threw 318 and landed 88
byrd threw 183 and landed 97

byrd was walking vitali down and backing him up, that's there for all to see so he showed better ring generalship.

byrd was making vitali miss all night long so he showed better defence.

byrd landed at a far greater percentage and (from 5-9) actually outlanded vitali full stop so he showed more effective aggression.

Clean effective punches is hard to gauge because vitali has about 20-30 pounds extra on each of his shots and byrd is known to be feather fisted. That is waht makes these rounds close because someone might have the view that a solid punch by vitali is worth a lot more than a solid punch by byrd.

 

This man actually watched the fight ^

Vitali realised he was going to lose and was having no success at all in actually landing punches on Byrd. He decided to stop the embarrassment of being hunted down by a light heavyweight and quit in his corner. The "shoulder injury" thing is just another one of Vitali's lies. Fighters do that to keep their marketability for future title fights.

 

It doesn't matter. Byrd was landing flush shots and Vitali was hitting air all night. Byrd should have been up on points. Vitali quit, made up an excuse and robbed Byrd of the credit for a deserved win.

 

It's pretty embarrassing to get stalked around the ring by a light-heavyweight. That's why Vitali quit. Watch the fight, guys.

 

Byrd clearly defeats Vitali in terms of ring generalship, effective aggression and defence. there is no valid argument against that.

 

Hm, just two things, I think Vitali really had an injury and while I hold that loss against him, I don´t hold it much against him. He showed heart later and I think the loss against Byrd, or more the reaction of the US and UK media, had a lot to do with that.

But then I don´t rate Vitali that high, especially not h2h.

 

I understand he also broke his little toe in the lead up to the fight!

 

Just watched the fight again.

Vitali is pure garbage

How people keep bigging this guy up is unbelievable

But according to some hed beat Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Holyfield, Tyson and Lewis....
GTFO

 

That's pretty much the way I saw it. Byrd was actually punching with more authority than we usually see him doing, he looked like he was punching with more power than Vitali because he was actually turning his punches over and puttign torque into them instead of his usual feather dusters he throws. He probably realised he needed to get inside and take the play away.

Byrd went up allot in my estimation from watching this fight, he won fair and square, the lack of credit he gets for a losers excuses doesn't sit right with me

I see it the opposite way, I did rate him highly head to head and still do to an extent but this fight changed how I view him H2H because he looks far more beatable. I had a severe rotator injury, when you have bad rotator injuries to your left shoulder you just don't throw that many left hands and he was complaining about his left hand not his shoulder (is the corner talk in German? If so can you confirm/correct the translation???). Vitali like many boxers can't accept defeat and has an excuse for each of his losses (including the amateur and kick boxing ones).

I do agree Vitali showed heart later against Lewis, I think this was his first hard fight and he just accepted defeat. It's a bit like Victor Ortiz, he folded when inexperienced against Maidana but showed the heart of a lion against Berto. But I do think this fight shows Vitali to be a bit of a front runner too and Byrd did expose some of his stylistic weaknesses

 

You do know that it was a bad confirmed shoulder tear that required surgery. So how is this a lie? You're just a player hater, Beatle.

 

I call BS, what evidence is there he actually had this shoulder surgery and he isn't lying like when he lied about the Pele Reid loss? Or lied about the Maskeev loss? He's a bad loser

For 1 it isn't a bad injury if you throw 30-40 jabs a round - it's not intefering with your jab, he was even left hooking after he supposedly got the injury that's not a punch you throw with a bad rotator injury. Another thing is the translation didn't mention a shoulder problem, they mentioned a hand problem. Look at other fighters that got real rotator injuries they stop using their bad arm, Vitali did not!!!!

 

Um, Vitali say point blank he was caught to a kick to the side of the head in the Reid match, which was forwarded to the HBO audience in one of his fights. How is that a lie?

The HBO crew which is notorious for hiring incompetent interpreters who 1 ) don't know boxing, and 2 ) sometimes lose translation in the messages said Vitali told his corner he was injured in round three. I believe there was a thread a while back where a person who spoke German said there version of the broadcast said it was the shoulder.

The Byrd fight means little. It was an injury that resulted in the TKO loss, not Byrd having Vitali in trouble at any point of the match. Byrd at best won three rounds of nine, and contrary to what you said was out landed in the majority of the rounds.

Fighters know when they have the other guy in trouble. Byrd was in disbelief when he won.

 

Initially he was lying saying it was a leg kick tko

At best it was a minor shoulder injury, you don't throw 30-40 jabs a round with a severe tear. Byrd was not in disbelief he was bossing Vitali from round 5 onwards and took his heart in this fight

ANother thing why didn't Vitali seek out the rematch and instead let his brother take on Byrd - making Byrd fight on 2weeks notice too?

The Klitites have lied about this fight for too long