The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. MichiganWarrior

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    Nobodies saying anything of the sort. No reason to even post this nonsense.


    Go watch the Raheem and Morales fight. Watch Raheem consistently drop his hands in front of Morales with no response from Morales.
     
  2. Gander Tasco

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    He hasnt fought every style, but the reason he comes out unscathed aside from being an elite fighter is that he hasnt really fought any truly great fighters in or anywhere near their primes, I agree that Oscar, Forrest and Winky would give him problems but so would a younger Mosley , so would Pacquiao, so would Leonard, Duran, the list goes on.
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

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    Morales couldnt smash Jesus Chavez at the weight, and he's going to smash Chico Corrales? :lol:
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

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    when was the last time floyd fought a tall, big and strong defensive fighter?
     
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  6. MichiganWarrior

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    Mayweather beats Mosley. The 140lb Mayweather would beat 140lb Mosley. Prime 147 pound Mayweather around the Hatton DLH fights would beat Mosley aswell. Mosley would never beat a boxer of Mayweathers caliber.

    Leonard and Duran are ATG's.


    Pacquiao's never fought a fighter on the level of any of those fighters either. Marquez is probably an ATG, but nowhere near upper echelon. And the Morales and Barrera's he beat were significantly faded and or weight drained.

    He just happened to arguably lose 3 fights to Marquez and Morales.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    corrales was so weight drained that night that he immediately jumped to lightweight in his next fight. :deal
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

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    Name the tall strong defensive fighters Floyd could have fought. The only ones I can think of are Forrest and Winky. And I already said he'd struggle.

    On the other hand he'd beat Clottey so easily it wouldnt be funny. Completely different levels.
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

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    His next fight wasnt until 2 years later because of jail time. He went back to 130 in 2003, won 2 fights there and split 2 fights with Casamayor and winning the WBO title.

    THere's an argument that Corrales didnt train hard enough because of his impending sentence as to why he didnt make the weight on time, but there is no argument to say he wasnt comfortable at the weight. He KO'd 6 of his last 7 opponents at the wieght.

    This is far different then Morales begging Roach and Co for a catchweight fight because he was struggling horribly to make 130.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    easily how? floyd won't have the workrate to make clottey respect him nor have the power to bother clottey. by you mean easy, he would do a baldomir part2?

    and floyd has the chance to fight winky but priced himself out.
     
  11. Sunchild78

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    I agree.Floyd is the better fighter between the two, but both fighters have excellent body attacks.
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

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    Every time Clottey would attempt to punch Floyd he'd be countered. Floyd would jab to the body and hook with the right all night long. Clottey doesnt have the footspeed to corner Floyd. It would be Floyds easiest fight he's fought at Welterweight. Clottey presents no offensive risk.

    Probably. Winky Wright H2H is the best fighter of his era in my opinion. If Floyd ducked him, it was the right idea.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    you know that corrales was having problem in his weight by that time. corrales failed to make the weigh-in and was forced to sweat it out. even when he went back to 130, he was getting knock downed and and all by casa. and corrales has this almost 6 foot massive frame so it's not unusual that he would struggle to make 130 at that time of his career.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

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    He was having a problem with the weight because he didnt train properly. The fact that he won a title at the weight afterwards against a really good customer like Casa inclines me to think he was comfortable at the weight.


    Oh and Corrales got knocked down quite often in his career didnt he? Dropped by Castillo what 4 times at 140?
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    and the thing is what if clottey makes it a waiting game/ floyd would not initiate the action. if he did and tried the hook, clottey's fast jabs would await him. the only fighter to ever dominate clottey was pac and taht's because of pac's workrate. floyd would not have the workrate to dominate clottey, more likely it would be a stinker where both defensive guys waits for each other.

    clottey is not on floyd's level, but his style would make floyd's own defensive style struggle.


    so floyd has not fought all the styles as you are suggesting right?
     
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