Currently your top 15 p4p?

good criteria :thumbsup

 

It becomes pretty open after the top 5 and this is off the top of my head;

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Andre Ward
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Bernard Hopkins
9. Carl Froch
10. Tim Bradley
11. Toshiaki Nishioka
12. Giovani Segura
13. Lucian Bute
14. Amir Khan
15. Wladimir Klitschko

 

My pound for pound list right now is:

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Andre Ward
7. Bernard Hopkins
8. Timothy Bradley
9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
10. Lucian Bute
11. Wladimir Klitschko
12. Anselmo Moreno
13. Brandon Rios
14. Amir Khan
15. Carl Froch

There are a few guys, that could get into top 15 for me, if they keep impressing me/bounce back strong:

Giovani Segura
Chad Dawson
Robert Guerrero
Miguel Cotto
Abner Mares

 

1.pac
2. martinez
3. donaire
4. jmm
5. wlad
6. hopkins
7.vitali
8. bradley
9. gamboa
10.ward
11.froch
12. segura
13. cotto
14. khan
15. guerrero

 

fixed it for you

If he beats him in September -- >Tomasz Adamek (Ring Top 3)

 

I can understand looking at this for an ATG ranking, but how are any of those losses even a little relevant to a current P4P ranking? Wlad hasn't lost in 7 years now.

 

Peter was NOT consensus #2 when Vitali beat him. He was ranked #4 by Ring at the time, behind Wlad, Iggy and Chagaev.

Solis and Gomez were both basically default #10s when Vitali beat them, although neither had done anything to actually deserve that spot. I don't remember Duckpin being in the top 10, but he might have been. Fair enough. It's still a pretty damn far cry from Wlad's recent resume.

When Vitali beats Adamek, he'll jump a little.

 

P4P list
1.Manny Pacquiao - 51-3-2, 38KOs
2. Sergio Martinez 46-2-2, 25KOs
3.Juan M. Marquez - 51-5-1, 37KOs
4.Nonito Donaire - 24-1, 16KOs
5.Wladimir Klitscko 56-3-0, 49 KOs
6.Bernard Hopkins 51-5-1, 32KOs
7.Pong.Wonjongkam 78-3-1, 42 KOs
8.Giovani Segura 26-1-1, 22 KOs
9.Miguel Cotto - 35-2, 28KOs
10.Andre Ward - 23-0, 13 KOs
11.Yuriorkis Gamboa - 20-0 16KOs
12.Carl Froch - 28-1 20KOs
13.Lucian Bute - 28-0 23KOs
14.Timothy Bradley - 27-0 11KOs
15.Amir Khan - 25-1 17KOs

 

atsch

Peter was No.2 in the world. His only loss was a close decision to Wlad. He was on a very good streak of wins after that:
Toney (X2) Ring No.4
McCline
Maskaev Ring No.3

before losing to Vitali. After Vitali dominated him he was ranked bellow Chagaev and Ibragimov.

Nice try.

 

Yeah sure. P4P ranking are about recent (lets say a year or two) performances. I wrote about the losses, because you said that Vitali doesnt have as good name on his resume as Chagaev or Ibragimov through entire career. So I responded that Vitali has better losses in his entire career. I know it doesnt have the impact on P4P, this is rather career resume.

 

If :smoke

 

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nonito Donaire
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Vitali Klitschko
7. Yurkioris Gamboa
8. Andre Ward
9. Giovanni Segura
10. Juan Manuel Marquez
11. Amir Khan
12. Robert Guerrero
13. Chris John
14. Carl Froch
15. Miguel Cotto

Floyd's not included because he hasn't fought in 12 months.

 

You shouldn't take his word as gospel...

Chaegev's resume:

Valuev (MD) (38 year old Larry Donald beat Valuev)
Vyrchis (MD) (Juan Carlos Gomez outclassed Vyrchys)
Ruiz (SD)

Ibragimov's resume:

Briggs
Ray Austin (Draw)
ancient Holyfield (Larry Donald outclassed a younger and better version of Holyfield)

They get bonus points for their good amateur careers but when you look at their resumes there isn't much there...

 

And who's better? Sam Peter (who lost to Wlad, then barely beat shot fat James Toney twice, then barely beat fringe contender Jameel McCline and knocked out glass jaw Oleg Maskaev)? Kirk Johnson (who lost to John Ruiz and beat Larry Donald, Maskaev and Lou Savarese)? Corrie Sanders (who knocked out Wlad but has little else of consequence on his resume)? Those are the three #2s Vitali has faced in his career. At a bare minimum, David Haye is the best win between the two of them, and it still will be even if Vitali beats Adamek.

Honestly, the best FIGHT between the two was Vitali vs. Lewis, where he held his own against a somewhat faded great, but he doesn't have much in his resume by way of wins.

 

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Nonito Donaire
7. Andre Ward
8. Carl Froch
9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
10. Miguel Cotto
11. Chris John
12. Timothy Bradley
13. Robert Guerrero
14. Lucien Bute
15. Amir Khan


Obviously Mayweather goes back in high if he beats Ortiz. But he's not fought yet so he is still inactive for me.

Also, all between 5 and 9 are fairly interchangeable for me.