The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    You can make fun of Floyd all you want. Do whatever makes you feel better. But your still a DUMBASS for those earlier posts. :good
     
  2. kamado04

    kamado04 Member Full Member

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    absolutely correct!!!!
     
  3. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Sounds sensible enough
     
  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    This is simply not accurate, but it becomes more clear everyday who "wants" and "doesn't want" the fight.
     
  5. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can the USADA test the German and Chinese athletes?:think
     
  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Lol...regardless of any of that, if the fighters aren't juicing there's really no cause for concern because they aren't going to blatantly create a positive sample for the sake of ruining someone's life...I mean lets get real here.
     
  7. birdhead

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    pac is a ****ing liar! i've been hearing all along that he's agreed to everything.

    Number one pound-for-pound boxer Manny Pacquiao has stated for months that he's agreed to all of boxing rival Floyd Mayweather's random blood testing.

    In a recent interview conducted between fighthype and Pacquiao's adviser, Michael Koncz revealed that Pacquiao never agreed to random testing without a cut-off date.

    Koncz stated that Pacquiao agreed to random testing up until 14 days before the fight.

    Yeah, well, we agreed to, in the past, random testing as long as when we get tested, he gets tested, up to 14 days. We're not going to test on the day of the fight. I'm not going to sit here and tell you, yes, we'll agree to do tests that day or not, but what we've done in the past, we've agreed to give blood immediately after the fight, but then the problem is the commission told us that they won't do that because it's not sterile in the dressing rooms. Will we give blood five days, seven days before the fight? You know, that's something I have to talk to Manny about, but we have nothing to hide.

    What Koncz is saying confirms what Mayweather has said in previous interviews: Pacquiao has not agreed to fully random blood testing.

    Some journalists, myself included, are of the opinion that if Pacquiao agrees to be randomly tested with no cut-off dates, the fight will happen.

    Others believe the test is a ploy to escape fighting Pacquiao.

    If Pacquiao calls Mayweather's bluff, agrees to testing with no cut-offs and Mayweather still finds reason to not fight, then Mayweather truly is avoiding fighting Pacquiao.

    But first the bluff needs to be called.

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  8. crimson

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    I think the distrust to USADA is like the distrust with US boxing judges (looking at you Oakland and St. Louis and Texas or Germnay or UK or who ever)). Not saying they are corrupt per se but when close judgment calls need to be made (contrary to popular beliefs interpreting testing results is partially subjective) non-Americans will not get the benefit of a doubt while Americans do.

    We see this now in matches (PWill says hi).

    It is really not a big deal that USADA does not do it. As long as WADA approves it, you are basically using a company that follows WADA standards. Many professional athletic bodies already use other organizations that is not USADA.
     
  9. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You really are a ****IN' IDIOT! :hat
     
  10. Sweet Jones

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    Simply put: Yes. (Link)

     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    There's no judgement involved, you either pass the tests or fail the tests, for these organizations it's a pretty simple equation. Positive for PED's or not, simple as that. For the record I don't give a **** who gives the tests, but I do think it's stupid to question the integrity of an organization that bases their entire existance on credibility, reputation, and accurate results.
     
  12. Arum is wrong to me it just sounds like more road blocks by arum to keep this fight from happening. TherEs nothing neutral about this fight that favors manny. Team Pac TopRank keep Flip Flopping.
     
  13. papadoc28

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    I didn't mean for every fight he had prior to Pacquiao. I never once believed he was trying to clean up the sport. I knew that was bull**** from the beginning and have said as such since it was brought up. Having said that, I still applaud him for taking that route because we know there are better testing guidelines out there and the only reason that haven't been worked into the NSAC is because they can't afford it.

    Everybody seems to have issues with Floyd's demand simply because of his reasons. Who cares about his reasons. More stringent random testing is a good thing. What reasons does Andre Ward have for wanting to do random testing in his fight with Froch? Will you have problems with him asking for it? If it were any other boxer other than Floyd making the demands everybody would be applauding him. You can't tell me that ain't the truth.

    In a sport where the outcome of a match can't be reversed. And I was on top making million dollar paydays, you bet your ass I would be implementing random testing in my fights. If I'm gonna lose, it ain't gonna have anything to do with someone using PEDs.
     
  14. osreyes77

    osreyes77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Arum says he's willing to undergo unlimited random blood test and wants the agency that oversees WORLD DOPING. Not just USA doping to run the tests. Whats the problem? It's not as if he's asking some obscure never before heard of agency to perform the tests.
     
  15. fan johnny

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    That is not exactly correct. Neither WADA nor USADA do the actual tests. The tests are done by the labs (you can look up the two labs that do it in the US on wiki). USADA and WADA do the administrative part of anti-doping policy including the overseeing the collection of the samples for the lab to conduct the tests.
     
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