The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No test. No fight. Not negotiable.

    Same thing it has been for the past damned two years! :lol:
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Yeah and that article proves my point. I think Arum doesnt want the fight!! Like you I don't care who does the test but Arum wants to come up with more BS hoping Mayweather doesnt fight so he can set up Bradley,Cotto 2 or even Oritz or Berto because no matter who Pacquiao fights hes gonna get paid.

    I hope you starting to see whats going on and whats really been going on the last year and half. It sucks because Pacquiao wont just come out and say **** but his daddy Arum has a big Mouth.
     
  3. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    USADA is not indispensable on conducting a random drug testing that follows the WADA Code

    Contrary to the boasting argument by United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA), a non-for profit and non-governmental organization, that its operation on Olympic style of blood testing is indispensable to the conduct with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) here in the United States is proven false, stating that it has its own infrastructures to conduct blood-testing. According to the recent article by Ben Thompson of Fighthype.com, [url]Annie Skinner, Media Relations Manager of USADA said that WADA does not have its own infrastrurctures to do Olympic blood-testing.[/url]
    But, while it is true that WADA does not have the infrastructures to conduct blood testing, it is likewise true with USADA.
    Let us break down the components of Skinner's declaration with facts about USADA vs. WADA, to wit:
    First, WADA, as of this writing, has accredited 35 laboratories around the world, two of which are situated in the United States of America, namely: [url]Sport Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory in Salt Lake City, Utah and University of California, Los Angeles Olympic Analytical Laboratory in Los Angeles, California[/url]. These laboratories are not beholden to USADA's operation and are in fact being contracted to do blood-testing for different agencies.Therefore, just like WADA, USADA does really have its own facility. It only gets its Olympic blood testing done through these laboratories, only if the sports event is held within the confines of US territory.
    Second, USADA operates only as "pure agency" on a contigent basis. It cannot function in an official capacity to the International Olympic Committee unless it is accredited by WADA.



    Third, what sets USADA's gold standard is only empowered by these two laboratories accredited in the US by WADA.
    Like the moon, USADA does not have its own light and brilliance without WADA as the sun from where it draws its power.
    Therefore, all of USADA's wishes to this effect are subservient to the power of WADA, to which Top Rank Godfather Robert "Bob" Arum has been banking with his argument agreeing to the Olympic style of blood testing but not through the conduct of USADA which Floyd Mayweather, Jr. prefers to handle the same.
    Even though USADA is "the official anti-doping agency for [url]Olympic[/url] , [url]Pan American[/url] and [url]Paralympic[/url] sport in the United States", its functionary has nothing to do with the connotation as being "official" relative to the preference of Mayweather, Jr. As such, it has no authority to report to any State's Athletic Commission, according to Arum, and definitely not indispensable.
    Now, Skinner must have been fooling the public and deserves job restraint.
    Arum believes that USADA is not neutral because of the presumptive fellowship of Mayweather with USADA's zealot bossman and lawyer Travis Tygart.
    Worse, Pacman's defamation [url]lawsuit[/url] against "Money" Mayweather continues. [url]And USADA's zealot bossman, lawyer Travis Tygart, has shown partiality during one of his public appearances referencing Mayweather as "the clean athlete".[/url]
    "We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization. We don't believe USADA is a neutral organization." Arum insists.



    Arum adheres, "I don't think anybody's test is as vigorous as the test administered by the Olympic Organization. And we can arrange for the Olympic Organization to handle the test under the supervision of the Athletic commission respective of the state where the fight is going to be held." He supposes a "special arrangement" can be done so long as both parties would agree Top Rank's proposal, for purposes of upholding "neutrality" in the collection of blood samples possibly to prevent potential tampering, so to speak.



    This special arrangement though is still subject to Floyd's acceptance. the ball is in his court now.


    [url]http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8225793/annie_skinner_media_relations_manager.html?cat=14[/url]
     
  4. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's also not forget that Pac's last 3 or 4 opponents were hand picked and practically signed before his scheduled fights even took place.

    If it is not clear that Arum blocked the fight so that he can run Pac through his stable first then I don't know what else to say.

    Funny that when Arum ran out of fighters to match Pac against, he's now ready to take the test. I'll bet that this gets pushed one more time now that Arum has Bradley to feed to Pac. One more in house deal before cashing out on his cow.
     
  5. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Nope, not gonna happen. If Mayweather say yes then I think hes gonna tell Mayweather that Pac derserves 55-45 in his favor because he knows Mayweather isnt going for that.

    Arum doesnt want the fight, I dont wanna say Pac because he just stays quiet (which it would be nice for him to say ****ing anything by now) but theres no reason why Arum came up with this WADA ****. the link above called his bluff. Hes a damn liar. Hes gotta be thinking that if JMM gave Pacquiao problems what the hell is Mayweather gonna do?? But **** IT, we need to see this fight and Pacquiao has a chance to beat Mayweather, just make the fight happen Arum
     
  6. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    jr: take the test!!! (pac got KOd twice, lost to morales, life and death with JMM, thousands of fights every year dosnt require OSDT)
    sr: i dont want my son to fight pac
    roger: it would be stupid for floyd if he fights pac after ortiz

    pac: **** the test, lets fight!!!


    tsk tsk tsk, this midget sounds really scared....:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  7. dodong

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    :lol:...you just claimed on a previous post that USADA have their own lab and I just showed you they don't.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The truth of the matter, that is what I am talking about. You don't seem able to comprehend it.

    No it isn't. Testing a specimen is done by a lab not the USADA. The lab is under contract. The lab will be testing all types of crap. That is what labs do. So when they say "our lab" in most cases they mean "the lab we have contracted". So in any case Conte is WRONG.

    I am not over analyzing anything. One minute you are saying that Conte is right that the USADA doesn't do the testing. Now you are saying Conte just meant the lab work. You, like Pac, change it as convenient. :lol:
     
  9. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    El Mosquito just read this article. Ball has been in Pacquiao side of the court since early last year and the shot clock should've been out by now but hes getting another shot

    [url]http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10292.html[/url]


    It even says if the fight is in the US, there gonna use USADA anyways!! Dumb ass Arum. Mayweather will call this bluff and get down with Pacquiao, Arums worst nightmare
     
  10. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    if pac was kod twice, lost to morales, lost twice to jmm according to some, cherry picking old past prime opponents, then WHY THE **** ***** FLOYD asking for blood test????
     
  11. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    how could it be on Pac's hands when floyd dont want to negotiate (and denied the second negotiation ever happened). He's the one who lost the urge and took a rest too, only to go straight for Ortiz when he came back. We all know he's already been looking for an opponent even before the Pac-JMM fight was signed
     
  12. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    damn shame you off though...pac couldnt say "**** the tests, lets fight!!!"

    took his a$$ almost 24 months since the testing was first brought up
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This article proves the point that Arum's request is complete BS!

    The USADA is directly overseen by the WADA. So to ask for WADA oversight is ignorant!

    She never said the USADA conducts its own testing. She said that the USADA has doping control officers and the WADA doesn't. A lab is an expensive operation and will be contracting from multiple sources.

    More ******* BS! From a Filipino writer no less.
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Historywise Floyd has done this before.

    When Winky agreed to all of Floyd's demand, Floyd came back and asked to change the money split....and you guessed the number. From 50-50, Floyd wanted to make it 55-45.
     
  15. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Nah you got it wrong. Pacquiao and Arum already had JMM preety much a done deal even before the Mosley fight. there werent playing on fighting Mayweather this year anyways. so mayweather is coming back fighting the #2 WW because the #1 WW has some problems. Young strong champion that is a southpaw so OBVISOULY he's warming up for Pacquaio once again.

    I just hope it happens
     
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