The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He hasn't directly responded to this specific comment; but in the past when it was brought up he has said he didn't care which organization did the test as long as it was random.

    I don't see why this will be a problem. Since WADA doesn't actually do testing, they will likely just decide on another organization to conudct the test during negotiations, and ask WADA to oversee.
     
  2. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    manny needs to take the test
     
  3. Sweet Jones

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    First off, your link doesn't quote him saying that. Secondly, as stated earlier, Tygart can speak on Mayweather because he's gone through their process. Manny hasn't. Is there a quote out there from Tygart from before testing started where he said this? I haven't seen it, so please post it if possible.

    Lastly, only the most rabbit eared of Pac fans would read that 'implies' Manny is dirty.

    "Sensitive thugs, y'all all need hugs."
    Apparently, you stopped reading right there. Because had you continued, you would have seen this:

    You're confusing having the financial autonomy to fully pursue cases against high profile athletes with 'chasing' high profile athletes.

    Do you have a problem with the USADA wanting the ability to fully defend its findings against those who will to drag out the cases hoping the USADA gives up for budgetary reasons?

    Come on, man.
     
  4. Sweet Jones

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    TRANSLATION: Yes, this is how we are spinning it now. The rationale against OSDT that has been on display on ESB for the past 18 months has now been reduced to the credibility of the USADA. We're out of gas.

    Adieu.
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I would assume the practicality of the logistics wouldn't be worth the hassle. I can't say that for certain, but I would think this could be an issue.
     
  6. Concrete

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    I don't think Mayweather would care as long as blood and urine testing are done randomly with no cut off date. As long as those things get accomplished I don't think it matters who does it.

    WADA must be the ones to pick the agency though, not Arum.:yep
     
  7. kpete14

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    Let's see what Bob Arum has to say about this. It's Bob Arum killing the fight, not the fighters!
     
  8. Blud_Shot_Eyez

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    Why is team Pacquiao so concerned about drug tests? He's worried about how many days he wants as a cut off, he's worried about who is doing the testing.

    Just take the damn test....

    Anyone else notice how smooth negotiations went with Shane Mosley and Victor Ortiz?
     
  9. ecdrm15

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    WADA works with the countries anti-doping organization (USADA) to test athletes. So if WADA rules were used, Pac would be tested by the Philipine anti-doping agency and the results passes to WADA.
     
  10. ecdrm15

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    I believe all SAC follow USADA rules who follow WADA rules. All the same
     
  11. dwighttsharpe

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    Well, this actually sounds like they both win!

    Let's see who screws it up this time.
     
  12. fan johnny

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    Facts are facts. I haven't changed the context of anything posted. I can't help it if you can't understand what is implied. Contrary to your statement, Pacquaio has tested clean every time as stated be NSAC or perhaps you just blindly believe everything that comes out of Mayweather and his supporters mouth. When a agency stands next to an athlete and campaigns, what he knows is a negotiation tactic, I'd call it bias same as Arum did, because it is a valid point. The NSAC also has the same policy of random testing for which both Mayweather and Pacquiao were order to undertake during non-competition. Both tested negative for banded substances. There is no difference with any agency testing for banded substances because they all use the same labs.

    I have no problem with USADA or any other administrative testing agency nor do I see any problem with the current agency NSAC that does testing in the most likely place for the fight to happen. Either you fail to accept the facts as printed, you are bias or have some other brain problem.

    What you have posted from the recommendation letter, again states that they specifically need money to go after high profile athletes. That is a conclusive statement. There is nothing confusing or misleading about the stament. What you specifically fail to realize is that they "want" to prosecute high profile cases because it promotes their agency. Other government agencies that don't have to promote thier name and treat all athletes the same and they do it with a minimal budget. Why does USADA have to be different.

    Personally I don't care if USADA does the testing, I merely point out that Arum reservations has merit.

    The whole point is moot beyond bias, because there are so many alternatives to using PED's on the banded list.
     
  13. DrTrouble

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    Let me fix that for you.

    WADA must be the ones that pick the agency though, not Floyd.

    Remember Arum says WADA and Floyd said USADA?

    I guess right now, we'll wait and see what Floyd has to say.
     
  14. Boxing Fanatic

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    stop the bs. nsac tests r weak. u guys actually believe your bs :lol::patsch
     
  15. DrTrouble

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    What's the big deal? How much extra do you think it will cost to have someone from say Canada oversee the testing and take samples to the lab at UCLA or Salt Lake City?

    I think you're forgetting that USADA don't do the lab diagnosis themselves. They contract to use the lab in either LA or Salt Lake (those might be the only two labs used for OST). USADA have doping officials who oversees the actually pissing into the cup and blood drawing. Those Doping officials then take the sample to the lab.

    So how much more would it cost for the WADA certified anti doping organization in Canada to send one or two guys to oversee the testing? I'm no genius but I'm guessing it can't be much more than flying guys from USADA to where ever Floyd and Pac are training.

    Now there could be other issues that we don't know about when using an agency outside of the US for an event in the US and that's a seperate issue. However, I really don't see the cost of just the testing and analyzing being an issue.
     
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