The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. caneman

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    If that's the case wouldn't it be a problem for USADA to test Pac, who typically trains in the Philippines for the first 6-7 weeks before coming to the US 2 weeks before the fight?
     
  2. Rudyard

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    :-( Whenever this clown cant make a logical point, his sorry ass goes racial!

    Brings back to my point, Manny has the worst fans possible!:verysad
     
  3. DobyZhee

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    they've caught NUMEROUS MMA and boxing cheats.

    You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
     
  4. caneman

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    Pac typically trains in the Philippines for the first 6-7 weeks before coming to the US about 2 weeks before his fights.
     
  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    yeah, like they caught mosley. there r so many ways to cheat the test, it aint even funny:roll: if nasc was so reliable why is floyd looking for other agencies? when was the last time pac took a random blood test? not once. dont get me started :lol::patsch conte who knows more about cheating on tests more than u and me combined said nsac is a joke. please
     
  6. Ceej1979

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    Americans have no clue whatsoever on drug testing!?

    I'm constantly shocked about this. Your country has only been taking it seriously, for about 5 years, so it's understandabile.

    But seriously, all this stuff is standard in Europe. We've been going through this stuff for 20 years already.

    WADA and the USADA are the exact same thing for one.

    WADA are the World Anti Doping Authority. And the USADA are the government body, which was set up to make sure American Olympic athletes submit to WADA regulations.

    All the USADA do is test people, under WADA regulations.

    Truth is, the only way Manny, or boxing gets away with this is this:

    1: He's very popular, and a lot of media organisations rely on him for traffic, and interest

    2: American's are very naieve on drug testing. From pundits right down to fans.

    If he'd behaved like this in Europe, he'd have been banned from all sports. Guys in Europe regularly get 2 year bans, from all sport, for refusing to do full random drug testing.

    A soccer player, Rio Ferdinand was banned for 9 months, for not being at his teams training centre, when a tester turned up!?
     
  7. Ceej1979

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    Come on. Get serious.

    WADA caught something like 41 drug cheats, in 2 weeks of competition at the last olympics!

    Nevada has never caught 41 people full stop. In nearly 15 years of testing!

    I think only 36 people have ever failed Nevadas tests
     
  8. Boxing Fanatic

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    :good
     
  9. Ceej1979

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    Again, this is just pathetic.

    Athletes in European countries have to make themselves available to testers. If they don't they're banned. Without even failing a test.

    Being abroad is no excuse to not being tested.

    In fact, many people think drug cheats purposefully stay out of countries that susbscribe to WADA, to ensure they can't be tested
     
  10. caneman

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    And you don't think WADA, whose practices USADA follows, is a joke?


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    But the BBC's sources are highly critical of the performance of the WADA-accredited laboratories that carry out EPO tests.
    Danish researchers recently set out to test how well the labs can detect EPO by medicating eight student volunteers with the drug over a period of weeks. The athletic performance of these students improved in some cases by 50%. But when over 100 urine samples from the students were sent anonymously to two WADA-approved laboratories, they produced very different results. One of the labs declared none of the samples positive.
     
  11. Ceej1979

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    As I said, drug testing is very very simple.

    WADA are the regulators. They decide the rules. Worldwide.

    USADA are the American branch of WADA. Set up by the government to implement WADA regulations, to ensure that American Olympic athletes are not cheating.

    All the USADA do is test people in America on behalf of WADA

    As with most things like this, you get attempts by vested interest parties, to muddy the waters, but it's not complicated.

    Calling guys like Travis Tygart "biased" or "Mayweathers friend" is just beyond stupidity.

    He's not the guy making the rules. WADA do
     
  12. caneman

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    :patsch Did I say Pac should be exempt? WADA has accredited anti-doping agencies around the world in just about every country. The WADA accredited anti-doping agency in the Philippines is the Philippine Sports Commission.
     
  13. Boxing Fanatic

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    not only does pac make such a fuss about drug testing, his actions alone on this whole ordeal make him quite suspicious of cheating. anybody who gets accused of cheating should say yeah ill take the test to prove u wrong. pac has instead made excuses and has yet to take a random blood test to this day
     
  14. Ceej1979

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    The truth is, guys like you, with vested interests, just trawl the net looking for anything, no matter how obscure, to try and create confusion on the subject.

    WADA and NSAC aren't even comparable. It's embarrasing.

    WADA randomly drug tests athletes, all year around. Make athletes tell them where they are going to be EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR, to ensure they can't "miss" tests. WADA randomly test blood and urine. WADA tend to catch at least 30 cheats, every single Olympics.

    NSAC do one pre planned urine test, per event. Giving the athlete at least 3 months notice of when it's going to be. And even when they fail, they often don't even ban them
     
  15. caneman

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    Name all the boxers in the history of boxing who have taken random blood tests. Are the rest suspicious now because they only took urine tests?
     
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