The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

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    like i said there r so many ways to cheat, it aint even funny. nsac doesnt blood test, thats why manny is quite comfortable with them. they lose money if pac fails the test. there r so many variables involved
     
  2. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Terrible in a for-profit environment. Are you serious about foreign travel not being much more than domestic?

    Also, what's really the benefit? If they are going to collect the sample, then send it to the same lab(s) then what's the point?

    If that's what it takes to get the fight signed then so be it, but from a business standpoint it's a stupid move.
     
  3. caneman

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    Are you claiming what I posted is false?
     
  4. DrTrouble

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    So the athletic governing body do full random urine and blood testing for drugs for every pro athlete in EU?

    If that's the case, maybe the US needs to catch up on doing full random drug testing too. But this is a separate issue.

    Why are you making it sound like Manny is refusing testing from a governing athletic commision? - "If he'd behaved like this in Europe, he'd have been banned from all sports" He's refused random blood test up to 14 (some say 7 days) that Floyd wanted. He never refused a test from an athletic commision.
     
  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    hell yeah. r u that naive? :lol::patsch was tyson, holyfield, jones ever caught. not to my knowledge. dudes who r obviously roiders have never been caught. stop it, man
     
  6. Sweet Jones

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    You talk about 'facts', then a sentence later start rambling about 'implications'.

    It can only go downhill from here.


    When has Mayweather said Pac failed a NSAC test? Can you post a link to that, as I've never seen it.

    Is that a 'fact', or something you believe to be true?


    Even hardcore Pac supporters will tell you how wrong this is.

    Your own words expose you.


    Explained already.

    You don't understand what 'facts' are, do you?

    Crash and burn.

    :-(
     
  7. Ceej1979

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    They're not under suspicion just because they only took a urine test.

    The main problem is that they got 3 months notice of when it was going to be.

    Designer drugs are undetectable after 10 hours in even blood. Let alone urine.

    All Nevada tests show is that the athlete hasn't doped in the last 15 hours...........

    To answer your query, of course you have to assume that LOTS of boxers have been using steroids over the last 30-40 years.

    Look at Baseball.

    Until you start testing guys right, a lot of people will always cheat
     
  8. Ceej1979

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    Boxing has worse testing that Baseball had 10 years ago.

    I'm sure baseball players, during the steroid era, did pre planned urine tests once a month. Boxers only do them twice a year!

    What I'm saying is, if a lot of high profile, legendary baseball players were juicing up. Guys you thought were American heros.

    You'd probably get the same in boxing.
     
  9. caneman

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    So that means with your reasoning you also find Floyd suspicious in his first 40 fights.
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    same goes for pacquiao :D

    [url]http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports-in-pittsburgh/victor-conte-labels-both-pacquiao-and-mayweather-as-highly-suspicious[/url]
     
  11. fan johnny

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    Specifically how? Anyone can say BS! It don't mean ****. I post with sources and facts not BS!

    They use the same labs as USADA for blood testing because there are only two in the US and they are already posted in this thread. The only difference in the testing is if there is someone standing there to hold your dick or not when you ****. A technician draws the blood and there are a lot of technicians that can stick a needle in your are arm. How the hell can you say one agency is weaker or stronger than the other when they don't do a fuk'n thing besides collect samples.

    Don't fuk'n bother with that random crap because NSAC already has that dumb ass policy. [url]http://boxing.nv.gov/Hot%20Topics/NACMemoReDrugTesting.pdf[/url]
     
  12. Boxing Fanatic

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    stop it. u telling me nsac is 100% fool proof. cheating has gone on for quite a whil now in boxing. as a matter of fact, in all sports. arum bribes people for a living.

    Victor Conte:

    "PED testing in boxing today is “IQ testing,” nothing more. The loopholes are so big that you could drive a Mack Truck through them. It’s really a joke. Traditional testing in boxing is basically worthless other than the detection of some types of stimulant before and after a fight. The testing is, almost by design, inept, and this basic ineptness breeds the use of performance enhancing drugs.”

    “The clearance times of most of these drugs that are out there are well known. Some of these clear in a matter of hours or days. So if you know when you’re going to be tested a week out, you go off the use of oral testosterone, for example, and you’re going to test negative.”

    i could post sources, too :roll: anybody could do that.
     
  13. fan johnny

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    You freak'n useless!
     
  14. dodong

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    Pac has moved from 30 to 24 to 7 to 0.

    Floyd has asked for OSDT, gone on vacation and lost his urge.

    Floyd has come back from vacation, Pac has accepted his OSDT.

    Your move Floyd.
     
  15. DrTrouble

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    Ok let's analyze this. USADA guy flies from LA to Phillipines 4x to do testing for Pac, how much will that cost? $2000 round trip X 4 = ~ $10,000 round off.

    Canadian guy flies from Vancouver to the Phillipines. I'm willing to bet it costs the same, maybe another couple of thousands more. So we're talking maybe $5,000 difference. Is it that big of a deal in the equation of a $100mil fight?

    And then another 4 tests in the US for both guys. Flying from Canada to the US is a few hundred dollars more than flying from one US city to another. Again maybe another $5-$10K more. So were taking maybe $20k more in the grand scheme.

    And the benefit of using someone else besides USADA is that team Pac won't feel that this other testing agency is buddy buddy with Floyd. They feel like the head of USADA, Tygart, could be shady because he has a bias for Floyd.
     
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