The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Out of gas, as expected.

    :verysad
     
  2. fan johnny

    fan johnny Active Member Full Member

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    Where the hell did you get that? I made it quite clear. NSAC is no weaker or better than USADA.

    It don't matter if cheating goes on or not, the subject is about the administrative ability to conduct testing.

    Now you are adding that every Athletic Commission is on the take and Arum is helping his fighters cheat? Or are you saying is it he is only helping Pacquiao to cheat?
     
  3. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's because you're assuming I was saying the best business move is to have USADA test both.

    The best business move is to have the US WADA approved organization test Floyd, and the Phillipine's WADA approved organization test Pacquiao.

    Then when Pac flies to the US, USADA or another US based organization can take over.
     
  4. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Translation"?:lol: You're silly boy. I'm all for OSDT and eager to see stricter testing measures implemented THROUGHOUT the sport. But I'm not going to ride Floyd dick like you and buy into his claim that he created this whole situation to clean up boxing...Nor will I justify his irresponible actions by blasting Manny out there in the press with accusations that he's failed to back up with any shred of evidence or support. The good news is that there is attention to the need for better testing in boxing...the bad news is the one whom brought attention to this had alliterative motives and use the positive aspect of better testing to hide his true intentions of NOT wanting the fight right then and there.

    So.....with all that said...USADA isn't really an organizations who's credibility that is in question. Bob is just doing his job and trying to ensure Floyd doesn't get any kind of advantage over his fighter...whether its a physical or mental edge. So he's trying to give his fighter some control over this aspect of negotiations.
     
  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    [url]http://www.boxingdispatch.com/2010/06/majority-of-boxers-on-steroids-claims-conte/[/url]
     
  6. fan johnny

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    Your being shown factual statements in its original context but can't accept it as fact, so you start turning the subject, with red hearings and intentionally misleading the point, yea your freak'n useless and that has nothing to do with my reasoning abilities.
     
  7. DrTrouble

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    JE Cash I'm sure you're right it would be more economically practical to have the WADA sanctioning body in that country test the fighter(s) in its country but for purposes of this discussion, I just don't think $25-$50K would make that much of a difference in a $100mil fight.

    What's more important is finding a WADA sanctioning body that both parties would agree on. And right now, it appears Arum is against USADA and Schaefer has said that Floyd is willing to move off of USADA.

    Maybe this is all just hype to build their upcoming fights with other opponents, maybe this is just posturing, who knows? But I think right now, we need to hear from Floyd.
     
  8. fan johnny

    fan johnny Active Member Full Member

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    Again not the subject. Get a clue!
     
  9. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mannnnnnnn You guys been going real hard in this thread!!!! Some of yall need to back away from the computer and get some ***** then comeback refreshed. Hell Yo girl probably ****ing somebody in the other room and you might not even notice. lol!!!!
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    loser :lol::roll:

    Victor Conte:

    "PED testing in boxing today is “IQ testing,” nothing more. The loopholes are so big that you could drive a Mack Truck through them. It’s really a joke. Traditional testing in boxing is basically worthless other than the detection of some types of stimulant before and after a fight. The testing is, almost by design, inept, and this basic ineptness breeds the use of performance enhancing drugs.”

    “The clearance times of most of these drugs that are out there are well known. Some of these clear in a matter of hours or days. So if you know when you’re going to be tested a week out, you go off the use of oral testosterone, for example, and you’re going to test negative.”
     
  11. fan johnny

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    Just something you might want to take note of. Arum basically said an "neutral olympic agency" and did not specifically mention WADA. People just concluded that is who he meant.

    I am with you and more inclined to beleive Arum was just setting the premise for future negotiations and adding fuel to the hype.
     
  12. fan johnny

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    I don't care about Conte's opinions. (besides Conte and I are in agreement)

    The subject matter is about USADA and NSAC comparative ability to administer to the testing.
     
  13. fan johnny

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    You could be right there!
     
  14. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wrong, he specifically stated WADA.

    "We don’t accept the USADA handling it," Arum told me.
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    . On those terms, Pacquiao will submit to whatever (blood) testing is required so we can make the big fight."


    [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/7/11/2271027/pacquiao-vs-mayweather-drug-testing-usada-wada-bob-arum[/url]
     
  15. thesmokingm

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    Ignorance much? The tests to catch Mosley didn't exist yet, just like how Marion Jones beat USADA and WADA for years.

    Conte doesn't know jack about the actual drugs, he's a frggin salesman that hired the organic chemist to make the drugs for him, and edumacate him on how to use it.
     
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