The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    But the PSC is WADA approved, just like USADA. They have the local jurisdiction. Plus, blood and urine samples are sent to WADA approved labs, which in this case the nearest ones are in Thailand like when NSAC tested Pac and Floyd randomly (urine) during their first negotiations.

    Isn't this the arguement here? To use the local WADA approved agency?
     
  2. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then they can pick another WADA accredited agency to handle the testing that will be supervised by NSAC.

     
  3. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    The last time Pac went more than 2 weeks at the Wild Card was for the Clottey fight. It's been the first 6 weeks in Baguio if you follow the 24/7 series on HBO.
     
  4. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No... WADA doesn't do the testing bro.

    It must be USADA or no fight.

    :yep
     
  5. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    USADA is not a testing agency too.

    It is the WADA's US arm.


    However, it is both for amateur sports.

    Tests are being conducted in 4 different WADA accredited laboratories to include the UCLA. Sop why not let UCLA do it. I am sure they have someone who is smart enough to design a protocol, like Don Catlin.


    For a quarter century, Don Catlin, M.D. served as director of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab and grew it into the world?s largest testing facility of performance-enhancing drugs. Today, he is focused on research and testing development at the Los Angeles-based nonprofit organization Anti-Doping Research, Inc.

    While Dr. Catlin was a UCLA professor, his lifelong interest in drug abuse expanded to doping in sports. He joined the UCLA School of Medicine faculty in 1972 and founded the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory in 1982 to run the doping control tests for the 1984 Olympics. The lab's service group provided urine tests and drug education to national and international sports organizations, including the U.S. Olympic Committee (since 1985), NCAA (National Collegiate Athletic Association, since 1986), NFL (National Football League, since 1990), National Center for Drug Free Sport (since 1999, runs the NCAA program), U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (since 2000, runs the U.S. Olympic Committee program), and Minor League Baseball (since 2004). To conduct sports doping control testing, the lab's scientists were required to master analytical chemistry, drug metabolism and pharmacokinetics, as well as legal and ethical issues.
    Because competitors who cheat often try to use scientific and medical advances to their advantage, doping control tests require constant research and development to keep up. Dr. Catlin?s research has made it possible to crack a host of designer steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs used to try to avoid detection. Such drugs include the steroids norbolethone (2002), THG (tetrahydrogestrinone, 2003), and madol (2004), as well as darbepoetin alfa (AranespĀ®, 2002), a drug that had barely been approved by the FDA. These widely acclaimed achievements required pooling expertise internally?analytical and synthetic chemistry, as well as molecular biology?and externally with lawyers and sports administrators.
    The research group also pursued interests in the clinical pharmacology (or fate inside the body) of anabolic androgenic steroids (male hormones, synthetic and natural) and of erythropoietic proteins (blood boosters), applying its expertise with clinical trials, body fluids analysis, GC-MS (gas chromatography-mass spectrometry), LC-MS (liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry), carbon isotope ratio mass spectrometry, and isoelectric focusing. Projects included estimating the metabolic clearance and production rate of testosterone by intravenous infusions of deuterium-labeled testosterone, determining the pharmacokinetics of steroids such as androstenedione (?andro,? formerly sold over the counter) and DHEA (still sold over the counter), and using carbon isotope ratio techniques to determine the source (synthetic or natural) of plasma and urine steroids. In addition to currently serving as Professor Emeritus of Molecular and Medical Pharmacology at the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine, Dr. Catlin is also the chairman of the Equine Drug Research Institute?s Scientific Advisory Committee, a member of the Federation Equestre Internationale Commission on Equine Anti-Doping & Medication, and a longtime member of the International Olympic Committee Medical Commission.

    I am sure Catlin can design a protocol that is better than Olympic protocol. The WADA is constrained with financila issues and design tests around it. While Catlin would not be. Sky is the limitwhen it comes to finances.


    BTW, Tygart is a bureaucrat, an appointed official, just like a any head of an agency. He is not a scientist, just like Conte was never one. Conte was a musician, never a pharmacist, a salesman.
     
  6. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    So USADA has to fly in their people to the Philippines, then fly out with Pac's blood and urine each time, for 6 weeks? That's a 20 hour flight one way.
     
  7. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No bro. It should be USADA only or no fight.

    Floyd camp are disturbingly silent since Arum's declaration.

    Floyd: I'm loyal to USADA

    :rofl
     
  8. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    I actually wonder what Arum's face looks like now that this blew up in his face.
     
  9. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Die Slow DickBreath!!!
     
  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Go back to school, dumbass!!!!


    You are typing things you don't know about!!!!


    You probably do not even know how USADA came abou, its birth, origin and purpose. STFU and go back and finish your primary education.
     
  11. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Next lie: "We can't use WADA or USADA as they will have an obvious bias towards Mayweather because he was an Olympian"
     
  12. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    88 pages.....did we come to a conclusion yet?:think
     
  13. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Covered.

    Floyd will shoulder all expenses.

    :lol:
     
  14. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep

    :lol: I reply in one thread on like page 2.. .Then refresh my screen 10 mins later and I'm on page 88... I was like WTF!!! Didn't realize they keep combining the threads.
     
  15. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "So if both fighters were from a foreign country, if the event was taking place in the United States, would it be best for USADA to handle the testing protocols?" -FH

    "Absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt." -WADA
     
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